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CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 07-04-2007 03:37 PM

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In the U.K a predominantly Christian countyr we allow many religions to practise and indded; have their own places of worship in our country. It's a shame that these countries don't reciprocate. However I am not going to get into a religious debate. As I said I hate religion and believe in myself and my family, not some unseen deity.
And now you have extremist Muslims demanding Shariah law.

jackhammer 07-04-2007 04:41 PM

As I said..i'm not going to get into a religious debate. I think that my own personal views can be derived from my posts.

Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 07-04-2007 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 378728)
I absolutely detest religion. it's just bullsh[i]t propoganda, and is responsible for some appaling atrocities over mans time on earth.

Religion isn't responsible for ****. People who believe in religion and take it too far are responsible. Don't use religions as some scapegoat to avoid the truth.


It'd be like a bunch of Star Wars nerds killing thousands of trekkie fans. George Lucas didn't make them do it, just like God didn't cause the Crusades or the Holocaust or any other tragedy based on religious prejudices.

sleepy jack 07-04-2007 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 (Post 378827)
Religion isn't responsible for ****. People who believe in religion and take it too far are responsible. Don't use religions as some scapegoat to avoid the truth.


It'd be like a bunch of Star Wars nerds killing thousands of trekkie fans. George Lucas didn't make them do it, just like God didn't cause the Crusades or the Holocaust or any other tragedy based on religious prejudices.

If religion never existed none of that shit would've ever happened.

boo boo 07-05-2007 12:19 AM

If religion never existed, Christianity would never exist, and if Christianity never existed, a lot of our hospitals, schools and charities wouldn't exist. Since many were founded by Christians and funded with Church money.

Banning the idea of gods existence because of how you see most religions? Thats probably the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Its not the idea that god exists that is the problem, its the idea that if god exists he would be spending the majority of his time talking to guys like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson that is the problem. Relgion inspires many people to do good, OMFG but it inspires people to do bad things too.

Well I have to ask you guys a good question, what inspires you to hate all religious people with extreme prejudice, hmm? Because whatever it is it should be banned, right?

sleepy jack 07-05-2007 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 378831)
If religion never existed, Christianity would never exist, and if Christianity never existed, a lot of our hospitals, schools and charities wouldn't exist. Since many were founded by Christians and funded with Church money.

Banning the idea of gods existence because of how you see most religions? Thats probably the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Its not the idea that god exists that is the problem, its the idea that if god exists he would be spending the majority of his time talking to guys like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson that is the problem. Relgion inspires many people to do good, OMFG but it inspires people to do bad things too.

Well I have to ask you guys a good question, what inspires you to hate all religious people with extreme prejudice, hmm? Because whatever it is it should be banned, right?

I don't know if that was aimed at me or not, but I wasn't saying christians and churches didn't do good I was only pointing out that to go 'oh its the people who acted under the influences fault not the influence' is bullshit because if the influence was never there, the act wouldn't have happened. They're rolls were just as big in the act.

boo boo 07-05-2007 12:38 AM

Music has inspired people to do bad things. Just look at Nazi Punk, or the horrible influence Gangster rap has on black youth.

I guess this never would have been a problem if music didn't exist in the first place.

Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 07-05-2007 12:39 AM

In that case, then we should blame guns for killing people. I mean, forget the fact that you need a person to pull the trigger.

And with that same logic, I blame my keyboard for 5p311i/\/6 er0rz!

Even if religion didn't exist, people would still find a reason to hurt someone, rather than just simply admit that they enjoy hurting people.

sleepy jack 07-05-2007 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 378835)
Music has inspired people to do bad things. Just look at Nazi Punk, or the horrible influence Gangster rap has on black youth.

I guess this never would have been a problem if music didn't exist in the first place.

It wouldn't have been, and same with the gun thing. Honestly, I wish weapons have never existed.

boo boo 07-05-2007 01:00 AM

If you take away their guns, they will just use knives, if you take away their knives, they will just use rocks, if you take away their rocks, they will just use fists, if you take away their fists. Well, lets have a head start and cut off the hands of every living person in the world. Why not?

Everything can be a bad thing in the hands of a human being.


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