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Old 07-03-2007, 02:38 PM   #51 (permalink)
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you can't rehabilitate someone with pedophiliac desires just like you cant rehabilitate someone with homosexual desires or any other sexual preference they have, if its there its there forever.
this is true, sexual criminals have the highest repeat offender rates of any crime.
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:57 PM   #52 (permalink)
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My idea of punishment for repeated sex offenders is simple.

We should give them two choices, life without parole or castration.
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Old 07-03-2007, 03:00 PM   #53 (permalink)
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My idea of punishment for repeated sex offenders is simple.

We should give them two choices, life without parole or castration.
Ooh, I like that. Better than my ideas.
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Old 07-03-2007, 03:50 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Ooh, I like that. Better than my ideas.
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Old 07-03-2007, 03:54 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I never said it should be me who decides these things. This is what I believe. If I WERE in a position of power and was allowed to pass a sentence on these people, you better believe I'd send them to the same hell they caused.

You and me have two different ideas of what justice is. I think of it as an eye for an eye.
Lets take a good long look at this people.

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I'd rather have a fascist judicial system that doesn't give rapist a chance to taste life again than a democracy where a lawyer can find some little loophole to exploit to keep a rapist from serving a few years in prison. And I'm pretty sure the victims of said rapists would want the same thing.
Sorry, thats where I quit taking you seriously, and tell me what happens if you convict someone thats been framed to have their genitals cut off or be thrown to the wolves? Are you just going to say 'shit happens?' By going to the same measures as they are, you're not much better. You can argue about motives all you want, but motives don't mean shit if you don't act on them.

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And I guess rape is just natural selection.

If you're attractive and vulnerable, you had it coming, right?
Where the hell did you pull that one from? I said nothing to point to that at all. I can't see the connection.

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Its the same kinda goverment Iraq had under Saddam Hussein. You know, the guy who we shouldn't have done anything about because Iraq was doing just fine?
What the fuck? Where do you keep getting these replies they make no sense, I do not understand what you're getting at.

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I'm gonna tell you the truth, I'm not a big conservative, especially when it comes to capital punishment. But rapists and child mollestors are the biggest scum of the earth, my position on that is pretty personal. A simple tap on the rist aint gonna cut it.
You make it sound like we just tell rapist that was very bad and let them off with a warning.

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I dont believe in the death penalty, but I believe in a hard punishment for people who commit the worst of crimes, rape and murder. One problem with America is that we've become way too soft. We think we can rehabilitate people who simply can't be rehabilitated, you can't rehabilitate someone with pedophiliac desires just like you cant rehabilitate someone with homosexual desires or any other sexual preference they have, if its there its there forever. We've given a lot of child rapists a free ride, especially in Vermont.

So yeah, I'm all for Jessicas Law.
You know, not all gay people walk around fucking guys left and right, they do have self-control i'm sure theres tons of pedophiles who aren't rapists and never will be because they know its wrong.

Christ you two should just go join the bush administration maybe you can get your ignorant beliefs to be accepted as fact and right by others.
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:33 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I'm not even remotely close to being a republican.

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You know, not all gay people walk around fucking guys left and right, they do have self-control i'm sure theres tons of pedophiles who aren't rapists and never will be because they know its wrong.
Its not like I'm suggesting we build a hi tech device that monitors everyones sexual preferences and then arrest everyone that is attracted to children, you do have a point.

But if someone is in a state that they will act on those desires, then as long as they have those desires, they will remain a threat. This is why castration is already being practiced by some legal systems and why its a good method. If a guy shoots someone in cold blood, you take away the gun. The principle is essentially the same.
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Its not like I'm suggesting we build a hi tech device that monitors everyones sexual preferences and then arrest everyone that is attracted to children, you do have a point.

But if someone is in a state that they will act on those desires, then as long as they have those desires, they will remain a threat. This is why castration is already being practiced by some legal systems and why its a good method. If a guy shoots someone in cold blood, you take away the gun. The principle is essentially the same.
I really don't have a problem with castration on rapists but it may not help. What if they decide to rape with a strap on or use their hands? Its not a for sure get rid of it, it may help in some cases but theres no way to tell just how sick some of these people are. Jail for life would be much better.
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Old 07-03-2007, 07:40 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Those are worst case scenarios, no reason not to use a method that will mostly work.

I admit, its complicated, because rape isnt just about lust and sexual drive, some do it because they love being in control of things weaker than them.

As for all that crap you hear about people doing it because they have a lot of stored up anger from having a bad childhood and being mollested themselves so they take it out on others? Well thats just a bullsh*t excuse.
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Those are worst case scenarios, no reason not to use a method that will mostly work.
Life in prison will always work, as opposed to castration which one their free will just mostly work. I'd personally feel safer with always.
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Its the same kinda goverment Iraq had under Saddam Hussein. You know, the guy who we shouldn't have done anything about because Iraq was doing just fine?
Don't give us that bull****. Of course Iraq was doing bad under Saddam Hussein, and of course he was a horrible leader who committed horrible atrocities against his people.

That is not why we invaded Iraq.

If it was then we would be in Darfur, hell probably most of Africa, right now saving those people from fates at least as bad as those the Iraqis suffered under Saddam. We would also be in North Korea, Iran, etc, all the countries that have worse political systems than ours.

On a side note, I thought I was the only person who thought Saddam shouldn't have been put to death, until I saw the Henry Rollins show the other day. Even a lot of people who are supposedly against the death penalty seem to think that an exception should have been made for Saddam.
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