Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01

Well, it's not like I'd do this to someone who didn't deserve it. That's what separates me from them; while they hurt others to satisfy themselves, I would hurt them to achieve a universal balance. Karmic justice.

Should we have spared people like Hitler, Mussolini, or Saddam just to uphold some moral standard? Or what about some people who weren't as significant as these dictators, like Tsutomu Miyazaki (The otaku killer), Seung-Hui Cho, or Nathan Gale? Should all of them been spared for the sake of being "civilized?"

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sleepy jack

You're making it sound like I propose we tell them that was bad and then let them go back into society, thats not what i'm saying at all. Karmic justice is bullshit, actual justice is better.

Its not justice to cruelly torture someone for their crimes, besides who decides how deserving a crime is? If you steal do we cut your hand off? If you rape do you proceed to cut off your genitals and then leave you to be publically stoned? Or leave you to the dogs? Is it going to be you to decide who deserves what punishment? That sounds like a fantastic form a goverment.

I would have added more, but I feel like talking to my girlfriend so i'm going to split.

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dirt mcgirt

**** son, its like you a fascist an a hippie an the same time.

good luck wif dat.

DontRunMeOver

But why would you want these people killed unless they have done anything directly to you? And if you did really want them killed then why didn't you go and kill them yourself?

And can somebody please explain to me what Mussolini actually did that was so evil, because I'm yet to hear a proper explanation. Yes he fought on the same side as Hitler, but the US and UK fought on the same side as Stalin who was possible worse.

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I never said it should be me who decides these things. This is what I believe. If I WERE in a position of power and was allowed to pass a sentence on these people, you better believe I'd send them to the same hell they caused.

You and me have two different ideas of what justice is. I think of it as an eye for an eye.

I dunno how to respond to this bastardized use of the English language, but I'll try.

...... nope, I can't.

You're right. Maybe I should be the one to have killed these people. I should have just got in my truck and drove all the way from Missouri to Virginia Tech and confronted the killer. Granted, I have no weapon nor the liscense to have one, and have no experience with guns, but HEY! I play mother****ing GTA, bitch, I can bust a cap wit da best of them!

I'm not in a position of power to decide what should happen to them. That's why.



I'd rather have a fascist judicial system that doesn't give rapist a chance to taste life again than a democracy where a lawyer can find some little loophole to exploit to keep a rapist from serving a few years in prison. And I'm pretty sure the victims of said rapists would want the same thing.

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The Unfan

The problem I have with this post is that all of those people were immediate threats and therefore treated as so. The reason Nathan Gale was shot was for immediate safety. Had the circumstances been different he would have been apprehended in a less violent fashion and probably be faced with time in prison and possibly a correctional facility. Same goes for pretty much everyone you listed. Had we managed to catch Hitler in a safe and timely manner he would've had a fair trial to determine his penalty. Thats how the system works.

joyboyo53

this thread is nuts.

i agree you cant fight hate with hate...

however this is a circular argument that really is based on your morals.

The Unfan

It does not matter what is morally appropriate, rather what is functionally correct.

boo boo

And I guess rape is just natural selection.

If you're attractive and vulnerable, you had it coming, right?

Its the same kinda goverment Iraq had under Saddam Hussein. You know, the guy who we shouldn't have done anything about because Iraq was doing just fine?

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And theres no safety issues when it comes to rapists?

I'm gonna tell you the truth, I'm not a big conservative, especially when it comes to capital punishment. But rapists and child mollestors are the biggest scum of the earth, my position on that is pretty personal. A simple tap on the rist aint gonna cut it.

I dont believe in the death penalty, but I believe in a hard punishment for people who commit the worst of crimes, rape and murder. One problem with America is that we've become way too soft. We think we can rehabilitate people who simply can't be rehabilitated, you can't rehabilitate someone with pedophiliac desires just like you cant rehabilitate someone with homosexual desires or any other sexual preference they have, if its there its there forever. We've given a lot of child rapists a free ride, especially in Vermont.

So yeah, I'm all for Jessicas Law.

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