Easy on the ellipses there, bud.
Yeah, I took a trip up there last summer and visited the campus; took a tour and orientation. They didn't seem as bad as you made them out to be.

Hey, Enemy, I definitely support your way of thinking. I was never that disciplined until I went into the military. You definitely think a lot like I do. It's just that I started about 7 years later than you in my life. If you can do it, remained disciplined, and still get satisfaction out of life, I'm all for it. Good Luck, dawg.

Discipline is fine, but not if its being exercised for the sake of doing it. I mean, Doesn't it show much more discipline to juggle multiple things that might inhibit lesser people?

If I go to bed on time every night so I can get up for work on time, thats just habit, it might have been discipline from the outset, but it might not be correct to leave it with such a name. Furthermore, We really ought to come up with a working definition for the word, I think we might roll into a conventional wisdom idea of discipline where in everything we do that society deems "correct" is the mark of having a disciplined lifestyle.

(this could be a good discussion I think, anyone else care to join in?)

But what about the moments in between doing things "correctly" we are not being "disciplined" at all.

I get up..every morning at 5 AM..shower..brush teeth..get dressed...smoke a joint...so I was "disciplined" enough to get up...and get ready for work..but I managed to also allow myself a reward of such....

Does that make my efforts of being disciplined..short coming?

I know this is back a few posts, but how does passing a pillow show the futility of a life governed by fear?

Let's begin with a formal definition of the word:

dis·ci·pline–noun
1.training to act in accordance with rules; drill: military discipline.
2. activity, exercise, or a regimen that develops or improves a skill; training
3. punishment inflicted by way of correction and training.
4. the rigor or training effect of experience, adversity, etc.
5. behavior in accord with rules of conduct; behavior and order maintained by training and control: good discipline in an army.
6. a set or system of rules and regulations.

Now let's see what Wikipedia has to say:

"Discipline is any training intended to produce a specific character or pattern of behaviour, especially training that produces moral, physical, or mental development in a particular direction."

We come to the following conclusion: discipline is never 'for discipline's sake': it is always a path of development, a road to a better self. Whether it's disciplining yourself to work out everyday (physical improvement), express your emotions more effectively (mental development), study every night to make good marks (mental), or adhere to a defined moral code, regardless of desires (moral/social development), discipline always has a goal in mind, a peak to reach, atop which your discipline becomes an inherent part of your being, and your goal is realized.

Big3, if you can support a lifestyle of alcohol, drugs, and sex as the pursuit of a goal, a road of self-improvement, then it could be construed as a disciplined lifestyle.

Though it wasnt intended for me..

I think the point is..or what MY point is..is that why cant you have your cake and eat too? If you go to school, go to work and party...you are balancing both an achievement and a recreation.

I don't think I said, but the first time it was substantially longer, and once told about fear holding us back, we improved by over two mins...johnny come-lately.

So I guess the idea that i've set myself up to both have a full time job, apply to grad school and to align myself with a campign when I move later this year counts? Or maybe that I've already made a place amoungst a municiple mayoral election (since we're just name dropping) as a campign manager counts too?

Look, my advice still stands tall, in the situation given, you shouldn't be so prudish about "paying" for sex. Are you a puritan? Honestly, I want you to tell me what the issue is with paying for sex?

1. All of those are admirable and legitimate goals; however, is your current lifestyle helping you to achieve them?

2. I wouldn't say 'prudish' is the correct term; 'opposed to' would be more appropriate. I consider sex more than a physical act, and to pay someone for it is degrading to both parties: it is reducing the act and the flesh to a service and an object, respectively: something I am entirely against.