Free Will? (country, effects, quote, band)

Kevorkian Logic · 02-01-2007, 05:25 PM

Yes. I have constant muscle spasms in my back and neck. They hurt like hell. I want the ****ing painkillers.

Kurt_Cobain · 02-01-2007, 05:26 PM

So you choose not to go through the pain! Theirs the choice.

swim · 02-01-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt_Cobain

Of course you have free will to make a decision.
'Do I turn left or right?'
'Do I want sugar in my coffee?'
Even if you start talking about devine intervension we all have the power to choose.

How? I didn't ask if it exists. I'm asking HOW.

Kevorkian Logic · 02-01-2007, 05:31 PM

My mom is also sick of me complaining so she encourages my painkilling effort. But dexatrine, she makes me take that. The only reason I has to switch from adderol to dexatrine was because i had become so addicted to adderol.

Kevorkian Logic · 02-01-2007, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

How? I didn't ask if it exists. I'm asking HOW.

sorry, i know. I got sucked into the argument.

swim · 02-01-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

And that somehow means we actually have no choice? That's totally illogical. By choosing we're exerting free will.

How's it illogical? If you're told that killing is wrong you're less likely to kill. Logic, reasons and morals are what make up every action. Whether it be the embracing or neglect of them.

Just wondering since you believe in free will and choice do you believe you choose to be gay?

swim · 02-01-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt_Cobain

No, but people choose to start smoking/drinking. People control their own bodies to intake that substance. Yes or no?

There's a reason to start. Nobody out of the blue is like I think I should take some drugs.

Kevorkian Logic · 02-01-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

Society already believes both are influencers but why can't they be determiners?

Because the lack of knowledge about how the brain works. i repeat and earlier point, there obviously is something (not mystical) but we aren't at the point of knowing what yet.

adidasss · 02-01-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

How's it illogical? If you're told that killing is wrong you're less likely to kill. Logic, reasons and morals are what make up every action. Whether it be the embracing or neglect of them.

Just wondering since you believe in free will and choice do you believe you choose to be gay?

Ok, if you look back at my posts, you'll note that I said certain things are predetermined. I agree that a large part of our behavior is determined by genetics, you can't choose to be a blond, black or gay. You can on the other hand, choose to die your hear black or refrain from having intercourse with people of the same sex. That's where free will kicks in.

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Originally Posted by right-track

But that's not true free will.

What if the choices for deciding are detrimental to free will?

I'm afraid I didn't quite understand this. Do you mean if we know a certain choice isn't good for us, that nullifies free will?

swim · 02-01-2007, 05:52 PM

So to extent do you think that environment effects us then?

We could argue the same points for the next couple hours but that's not fun. I rather just know your opinion on specifics.

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02-01-2007, 05:31 PM	#34 (permalink)
Kevorkian Logic Imperfectly Perfect Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,290	My mom is also sick of me complaining so she encourages my painkilling effort. But dexatrine, she makes me take that. The only reason I has to switch from adderol to dexatrine was because i had become so addicted to adderol. __________________ "it is only through a limitless accumulation of the imperfect that a certain type of perfection can be attained"

02-01-2007, 05:52 PM	#40 (permalink)
swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	So to extent do you think that environment effects us then? We could argue the same points for the next couple hours but that's not fun. I rather just know your opinion on specifics. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/