TheBig3

So every sunday night we have a radio program on one of the stations called "1 in 10: the *** and lesbian community" So last night I was flipping through talk radio because I'm an old man and there was an elderly gentleman engaged in a civil and rational debate about what the problems with *** marrige were. I really wnated to hear the entire thing but I had arrived at the Taqueria and I was hungry.

But since this has been a hot button issue on these boards for a bit now and it pops up in signatures, by lines and unrelated topics so I figured lets start it here.

I think a nay should start off (in my opinion) because from my Libretarian standpoint everything should be allowed.

Also, I know it will get out of hand but if we could all try to have an emotionless debate that would be swell. I know I myself get "way to sensitive on here anyways" *runs gleefully*

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[MERIT]

A "nay" (meaning no allowance of g@y marriage) since you believe everything should be....allowed..........Contradiction much?


That aside, as you all already know I disagree with g@y marriage. The old clich`e "a marriage should be between a man and a woman" is completely true. We dont let people go around and marry sheep.......

riseagainstrocks

But why?

Based off of religious text?

If God created every man and women (something you obviously hold dear) then would the fact that God made a *** man be a "mistake"?

God doesn't make mistakes right? If so, then God meant for that person to be ***. And if God is a loving God as extolled in the Bible, then he would allow them the same emotions and thought process as heterosexuals correct?

Therefore denying homosexuals civil unions is hypocrisy.

Marriage is a religious contract and church's should sort that one out.



Plus the sheep arguement is a logical fallacy. Unless of course you don't consider homosexuals human.

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[MERIT]

God created man. He gave man freewill. Satan tempted man's freewill into sin, in this case that sin is homosexuality. Dont blame homosexuality on god.

Urban Hat€monger ?

Thats all very nice but from what I gather from gay friends is the reason they wanted gay marrages is so that they have the same legal rights as far as taxation , benefits and those sorts of things as straight couples who are married.

Religion isn`t the only issue.

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tdoc210

I think *** marriage should be allowed, and denying it, is a violation of freedom, and what America, (well is supposed to) stands for.

If I remeber correctly there is no commandment saying one man shall not love another man, in your precious bible.

Besides government should not be run off dated ideals, though im one to talk, because i revel in pagan celbrations, such as mayday etc. Infact those religions make alot more sense than Christianity, Judaism, or Muslim. They payed respects to the things that actually gave them life, sun water, wind, fertilit, etc.

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[MERIT]

No commandments, but there are several scriptures that say homosexuality is wrong. And it doesnt need to be written anywhere, it should be implied, atleast to christians and the common sensical.

_Spinning_

I think it's perfectly fine.

The whole religion thing shouldn't factor into the debate at all, but since it seems to be the only thing stopping people from accepting it, then I guess the Church has some work to do on the "Morality of Same Sex Marriage."

R.A.R has a very valid point.

God is Omnipotent and all powerful.

If Homosexuality is such a problem, why does it exist and why are people in same sex relationships all over the world falling in love?

I say, let them get married. They do over here, and there's nothing wrong with it.

"Freewill"

[MERIT]

Dont just argue for homosexuality, why does ANY sin exist? It all boils down to free will, and whether you have the dedication and guts to follow the rules set by God and live a good life.

tdoc210

Not everyones christian..y'know. and government should not be run by, a religion. It fails. Just as all governments will, in all time crumble, so shall structured religion, it is in it's decay already, people with logical sense, have come into focus now.

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We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.