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riseagainstrocks 12-29-2006 12:11 AM

The Official Drug Thread
 
We need one.

Share experiances/ideas/debates/whatever.


My ideas (taken from a post on another board so excuse me if some parts seem like I'm talking to people).


I feel that marijuana's ways of altering thinking (at least in my case) have improved my life immeasurably.

For instance: When ever I listen to music now I always feel like it's being played live right in front of me. And depending on what I'm listening to (electronica does it most) I have a "trip" of sorts. When I close my eyes I see color corresponding to the notes and hear each pitch as if it's being sung rather than played.

While high, I've had many "eureka" moments where I understand everything around me. Whether it be the human condition (no life experiance is unique, we're connected with the past and it's the past that drives the future), to screaming in music (singing's been around for thousands of years, only recently (relativly speaking) screaming has become big in music. In large part due to the message being shared (this mostly pertains to hardcore and metal with understandable vocals)), to sex (to hard to explain), to friends, etc etc.

I believe that psychoactives are very much part of the human condition. Every naturalistic civilization in the world (American Indians, Aztecs, Eurasian peoples) use such "drugs" as spiritual mind openers. From peyote to marijuana to mushrooms, these substances have shaped where we are today whether people like it or not. I feel it's important to accept that fact.

All that being said, pot (and other psychoactives for that matter) are NOT for everyone. It's already been said in this thread but certain people have addictive personalities. Pot becomes their excuse. I smoke 4-5 times a week usually, maintain a 3.8 GPA my senior year, got a 1400 out of 1600 on my SAT exam, engage in structured debates in school and outside of it. I can do all this because I realize that pot is a mind opener. I don't smoke to feel good. I smoke to experiance life in new and interesting (not always pleasant either) ways. And I think that is a major part of it.

Alcohol is legit too. But I'd rather have a mind**** than just go numb and want to **** something (and be pisspoor at it too).

Shrooms, LSD, DMT and Mescaline are high on my list of things to try. But I need to a) obtain them and b) make sure I'm in the right mood/setting before I do.

Moonshine 12-29-2006 12:20 AM

The only drug I have tried that had been beneficial to me and thusly enjoyable has been marijuana, in small doses. I have had bad experiences with alchol, legal party pills, acid, salvia (It didn't do anything) and mescaline.

ØØ Void 12-29-2006 12:21 AM

They're good.

riseagainstrocks 12-29-2006 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ØØ Void (Post 318181)
They're good.


lol.

and I'm actually trying Salvia this weekend. Take a big rip of it and it's supposed to be mindblowing.

sleepy jack 12-29-2006 12:26 AM

Drugs have helped me through so much. I don't think I would've been able to get through this last break up without pot and alcohol.

Moonshine 12-29-2006 12:27 AM

The thing with salvia is you have to smoke it exactly right or it won't work. That, and the effect lasts like a mere 15 minutes if you're lucky.

riseagainstrocks 12-29-2006 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonshine (Post 318185)
The thing with salvia is you have to smoke it exactly right or it won't work. That, and the effect lasts like a mere 15 minutes if you're lucky.

yeah I know that. But it's supposed to be really intense. Like, too intense. And that's exactly what want. I love how much my thinking has changed due simply to pot. And the fact that I have auditory hallucinations with marijuana and see things when I close my eyes leads me to think that I'm more receptive to psychadelics than alot of people.

Laces Out Dan! 12-29-2006 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks (Post 318175)
While high, I've had many "eureka" moments where I understand everything around me.

I get those quiet a lot. However mostly only when im smoking alone. I do a lot of thinking. Im a 5-6 times a week smoker. I've done Shrooms, it was amazing. I had a short period of a bad trip, but when i left the room it was all good. Me leaving that room was the best thing i could have done. I went to the living room where the radio was on and it was a Phsycadelic 60s sunday or something. So i just layed on the couch and listened to the radio with my buddies for about 4 hours. The music was literally in my head when i would shut my eyes. I got the craziest hillucinations in my head when i would shut my eyes and also when they were open. The shag carpet was swirling and sorta "waving" all over the floor. The painting of birds on the walls had flying birds on them. All in all it was an amazing experience.

riseagainstrocks 12-29-2006 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by _LesPaul43_ (Post 318187)
I get those quiet a lot. However mostly only when im smoking alone.

exactly. It's soooo legit. I go on the back porch, light up a blunt with about .7 - 1.0 g nug of some hydro'd ****, smoke up, drink some water, thrown on a pair of stereo headphones, turn on some tunes and play along :D

Moonshine 12-29-2006 12:56 AM

Preferred smoking method? I'm all for spots or spliffs.

Laces Out Dan! 12-29-2006 12:57 AM

Bong
Gravity Bongs are insane. My friend and i made one. We call it the "one Hit wonder"

Moonshine 12-29-2006 12:58 AM

I dislike bongs personally. Sound wacks me out much. I'd rather a lung.

riseagainstrocks 12-29-2006 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _LesPaul43_ (Post 318196)
Bong
Gravity Bongs are insane. My friend and i made one. We call it the "one Hit wonder"


least original name ever?

haha, it's ok my buddies was the "hit it and quit it". He didn't care that that was also his motto towards women.

Laces Out Dan! 12-29-2006 01:04 AM

Yeah, im down with the "Fuck and Chuck" when it comes to women.
We've also got a couple other bought bongs. "The Red Baron" being my person favourite.

Trauma 12-29-2006 01:05 AM

Pot and alcohol.

Sometimes it changes up to include pills, but that's the main line-up.

Weapon of choice: water bong

ØØ Void 12-29-2006 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks (Post 318182)
and I'm actually trying Salvia this weekend. Take a big rip of it and it's supposed to be mindblowing.

It's pretty weird. Don't expect some kind of spiritual awakening though. The last time I smoked it, I pointed at some tree and yelled, "Octopus!" (or something like that, according to my friend), then fell down a hill, backwards, for about forty five seconds. I remember then looking up at the sky and seeing it spin around at a moderate speed. It wasn't nauseating though, just...strange. Kind of dreamy, I guess.

I've got some lorazepam that I might take tomorrow. For those of you who don't know, it's basically Valium, but stronger.

Alo 12-29-2006 05:36 AM

Never used any besides alcohol.
I may smoke my first joint next week at a friends' party, but I'm not sure yet. I tend to get obsessed with stuff, I'm afraid i'll get addicted. Or at least talk myself into being addicted, just by thinking I will up front.

NaNaNer 12-29-2006 07:53 AM

Where to begin...

I have done most man made and naturally grown drugs...I ate my first 3 grams of mushrooms at 13...fryed on acid at 15...my parents were marijuana growing hippies who owned a video store....I have been to rehab for meth, pills (benzos and opiates) I never liked alcohol..I did when I was younger but as an adult dont get into it. Salvia is a bad idea...never liked it..its like doing crack..without the addiction..no really it is...coke was okay but I never liked the drip..I mod a marijuana forum, weed is medicine..for me..and I think I will always fight for the legalization on it..I wont argue that point with anyone here..you can read my posts on the forum..my choice for weed is to either cook it, concentrate it various ways, or vaporize it...if I am traveling I like joints....ummm...opium is okay...again its not worth the withdrawals...acid IMO is the best "psycadelic (sp?)" but if its dirty your spine can feel broke...shrooms just taste bad..making tea is more efficient..like they say...either then shooting straigt to the bloodstream..injesting it is the next best..may take awhile but it will be a cleaner and clearer high with less "side effects"...

riseagainstrocks 12-29-2006 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Alo (Post 318221)
I tend to get obsessed with stuff, I'm afraid i'll get addicted. Or at least talk myself into being addicted, just by thinking I will up front.

There is no physical addiction and only a very very very small chance of any sort of psychological addiction.

And unless you're smoking really good stuff, don't expect much the first time.

NaNaNer 12-29-2006 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks (Post 318191)
exactly. It's soooo legit. I go on the back porch, light up a blunt with about .7 - 1.0 g nug of some hydro'd ****, smoke up, drink some water, thrown on a pair of stereo headphones, turn on some tunes and play along :D

And you know its hydro dank because?

Raine 12-29-2006 11:18 AM

The first time I did some pot, I was listening to rage Against the Mcahine. And then I ended up on someone lawn looking at stars that were bright as hell.

riseagainstrocks 12-29-2006 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NaNaNer (Post 318263)
And you know its hydro dank because?

I know the guy who sells it well. It's very crystalized, and sticky.

NaNaNer 12-29-2006 11:29 AM

That doesnt mean it was grown hydroponically...which "hydro" is refered to..might mean its dank..but the only way to know if it its "hydro" is if you know the grower and he has grown it in that method. And crystals are good..sticky is a good sign of of it being an indica...great body high...

riseagainstrocks 12-29-2006 11:36 AM

He tells me it was hydroponic'd I believe him. No reason not too. All I know is that it gets me quite stoned.

NaNaNer 12-29-2006 11:37 AM

Head high or body high?

NaNaNer 12-29-2006 11:37 AM

Well more of which..cause most 40/60 strains will do both..

NaNaNer 12-29-2006 11:41 AM

Did it look like this..

Chronotub 12-29-2006 11:44 AM

don't really do anything other than alcohol, I've smoked pot a couple of times, was an allright experience but not that great

NaNaNer 12-29-2006 11:45 AM

^^ You didnt smoke anything good then.

bruise_violet 12-29-2006 11:51 AM

I tried dope once and got suspended from school :(

It made me ill anyway, I'm such a pussy.

I was tempted by salvia, is it nice?

NaNaNer 12-29-2006 11:53 AM

For the best info on any drug is to go to www.erowid.com

I didnt like it..but some people love it.

Chronotub 12-29-2006 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NaNaNer (Post 318331)
^^ You didnt smoke anything good then.

I've tried it a couple of times with different people, they all seem to know their drugs and thought it was good
it was allright but I've got no real desier to try it again, rather stick to cider

NaNaNer 12-29-2006 12:02 PM

Cool beans.

Trauma 12-29-2006 12:23 PM

I want to try shrooms badly.
The experience seems colourful.

NaNaNer 12-29-2006 12:24 PM

Acid is more colorful..schrooms are more body then visual..but the visual is good..but acid is more of a cartoony colorful as with shrooms it more mellow...but so cool.

Trauma 12-29-2006 12:46 PM

Well I don't want acid to be in my spine for 7 years.

ØØ Void 12-29-2006 01:48 PM

It doesn't stay in your spine. Neither does Ecstacy. Acid is out of your system entirely within three days or so.

NaNaNer 12-29-2006 01:50 PM

www.erowid.com

Check it out..

Your wrong..it stays in your spine for up to seven years..but the only way to check that..is to have spinal tap..or a hair test will show it too..but it will not show in urine and or blood after three-five days.

Laces Out Dan! 12-29-2006 01:59 PM

Does anyone here have specific techniques when it comes to smoking weed. I know some people that do certain things that to them, gets them a better high. More of a body high.

cardboard adolescent 12-29-2006 02:02 PM

Smoke more.

I've also noticed that pot brownies give more of a body high. Oh, and whoever was talking about the gravity bong, I love those things. One of my favorite memories was me and a few friends hitting one of those a few years ago, and my friend hit it, stood up, and passed the **** out. Five seconds later he gets up off the ground and is like... what the hell just happened. He couldn't remember. Classic.


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