The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (tune, quote, history, Hang)

~~Rabid Sea Turtles~~ · 06-07-2006, 11:38 AM

I believe in Evolution Alex.....

~~bungalow~~ · 06-07-2006, 11:41 AM

Its not even like you have to believe in it.
It isn't some magical force that is faith based.

Raine · 06-07-2006, 04:11 PM

The whole idea behind creationism is that god (or some higher being) created humans and that humans didn't evolve from some lower life form.
Some people (usually Christians) say that to not believe in creationism is like some form of blasphemy against god.
But if god is real and he really did create us and we really were made in the image of him (like the bible does say, somewhere in there) then you'd have to wonder why is it that homosexuals, transvestites, and transgendered people exist.
If you don't believe in evolution, then it would be almost impossible for you to grasp the concept iof someone being *** or wanting to have a sex change.
So then the question becomes if evolution doesn't exist, how else can you explain the existence of transgendered people, and homosexuals (people considered less than human by most Christian religions)

And if evolution didn't exist, why is it that the human body in all of it's complexity seems to have so many things inc ommon with lower lfie forms, like bacteria, round worms, and chimpanzees (not necessarily monkeys in general).

And for the record I am still an advocate for both sides. But i'm a bigger fan of evolution.
Peace

tdoc210 · 06-07-2006, 04:21 PM

ho hum christianity is redundent upon itself........the only worthwhile religion would be buddhism

swim · 06-07-2006, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Raine

But if god is real and he really did create us and we really were made in the image of him (like the bible does say, somewhere in there) then you'd have to wonder why is it that homosexuals, transvestites, and transgendered people exist.

I switch between being an atheist and a deist. And being a deist means you think that there's a god and he gave up on us just plain left and let us destroy ourselves. Which would explain the whole made his image and why people are the way they are. What does sexually have to do with anything? You don't know that god isn't flamming fag.

DontRunMeOver · 06-07-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

I switch between being an atheist and a deist. And being a deist means you think that there's a god and he gave up on us just plain left and let us destroy ourselves. Which would explain the whole made his image and why people are the way they are. What does sexually have to do with anything? You don't know that god isn't flamming fag.

I suppose Raine did have a point there. God might have been a flaming *** and that would still mean that all of the heterosexuals and bisexuals were not created in his image. Also, would God have looked black, white, chinese, indian or what? What about people with missing body parts? Did God have two arms and two legs, or was he like an amputee in a wheelchair? Was he a siamese twin? Did he have Down's Syndrome? Which of these people exactly were created in his image? Or was it just the first man, and everyone from then on wasn't created in God's image?

mosesandtherubberducky · 06-07-2006, 05:06 PM

^I think the last thing you said is right. Cause if he did make everyone in his image he wouldn't have a solid image, he would be constantly changing. Losing limbs and growing them back, his skin tone would continually shift. People diversify due to where they live.

swim · 06-07-2006, 05:06 PM

Drmo, my last sentence is a complete and total joke. I hope you're being sarcastic and didn't take what I said at face value.

littleknowitall · 06-07-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by the death of capitilism

ho hum christianity is redundent upon itself........the only worthwhile religion would be buddhism

I atched a programme the other day that put forward a case that dictated in the years jesus is missing from the bible he was snatched by 3 buddhist monks (the 3 wise men who choose their next next dhali lama by the stars) and trained in their ways.
it was a pile of **** but heh, for some reason i felt it to be of relevance. ah well i've typed it now.
dhali lama - spelling??

DontRunMeOver · 06-07-2006, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by swinintheundertow

Drmo, my last sentence is a complete and total joke. I hope you're being sarcastic and didn't take what I said at face value.

I'm not being sarcastic. The last sentence just got me thinking.

Moses gets what I'm on about here. If everybody was truly in God's image then he would have to have a morphable image to accomodate for the differences in everybody's appearance. But then this would mean that for each person to be in his image, each person would have to also have a morphable image (which isn't true).

If the first man only was made in God's image, both the man and God would only need one image and this would allow for them to both have the same image.

06-07-2006, 04:11 PM	#1353 (permalink)
Raine Full-Time Hellion Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: PA Posts: 1,531	The whole idea behind creationism is that god (or some higher being) created humans and that humans didn't evolve from some lower life form. Some people (usually Christians) say that to not believe in creationism is like some form of blasphemy against god. But if god is real and he really did create us and we really were made in the image of him (like the bible does say, somewhere in there) then you'd have to wonder why is it that homosexuals, transvestites, and transgendered people exist. If you don't believe in evolution, then it would be almost impossible for you to grasp the concept iof someone being *** or wanting to have a sex change. So then the question becomes if evolution doesn't exist, how else can you explain the existence of transgendered people, and homosexuals (people considered less than human by most Christian religions) And if evolution didn't exist, why is it that the human body in all of it's complexity seems to have so many things inc ommon with lower lfie forms, like bacteria, round worms, and chimpanzees (not necessarily monkeys in general). And for the record I am still an advocate for both sides. But i'm a bigger fan of evolution. Peace __________________ A pair of powerful spectacles has sometimes sufficed to cure a person in love. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

06-07-2006, 04:21 PM	#1354 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	ho hum christianity is redundent upon itself........the only worthwhile religion would be buddhism __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

06-07-2006, 05:06 PM	#1357 (permalink)
mosesandtherubberducky butt say x Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: so i read the question as "Where YOU live" which was kinda funny instead of "Where you live" Posts: 1,649	^I think the last thing you said is right. Cause if he did make everyone in his image he wouldn't have a solid image, he would be constantly changing. Losing limbs and growing them back, his skin tone would continually shift. People diversify due to where they live. __________________ Can I have a youtube video for a sig? There's a thing that says "Wrap [YOUTUBE] tags around selected text"

06-07-2006, 05:06 PM	#1358 (permalink)
swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	Drmo, my last sentence is a complete and total joke. I hope you're being sarcastic and didn't take what I said at face value. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

06-07-2006, 11:38 AM	#1351 (permalink)
~~Rabid Sea Turtles~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the sea... Posts: 252	I believe in Evolution Alex.....

06-07-2006, 11:41 AM	#1352 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	Its not even like you have to believe in it. It isn't some magical force that is faith based.