The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (techno, country, house, pop)

[IamAlejo]

Originally Posted by ffmariners

how so? would you risk your high paying job to speak out against the president?

I wouldn't, so therefore I would speak anonymously.

The Watergate whistleblowers were anonymous. Why does anonymous appear to be synonymous with fake in your brain?

Read my post. Then read it again. Does the word "fake" appear? Read it one more time to check. Nope, it doesn't. The reason I find it so "interesting" is because if they felt so "against" the President why would they want to work for him?

[ffmariners]

Originally Posted by IamAlejo

Read my post. Then read it again. Does the word "fake" appear? Read it one more time to check. Nope, it doesn't. The reason I find it so "interesting" is because if they felt so "against" the President why would they want to work for him?

money speaks, this is America... you should know. and you need not mention fake, most people would take that as an inference from the way you have represented yourself here. good job trying to be a smart ass though...

[IamAlejo]

True, but I just think aides who feel so "passionately" about their country wouldn't want to work for a President who is "doing all this damage". Truly their is no other candidate to vote for, Kerry is horrid, I just see Bush as a one way train. Of course, that is if you are counting the two main parties. I don't really consider the others.

[SPLADOW!]

John Kerry:

-I was in Vietnam for a whopping 4 months...

-Anulled a 14 year marriage...

-Vote for something, then vote against it, vote for something, vote against it...

-MY wife, or basically my sugarmomma is worth billions, yet you still say Bush is a money whore, muhahaha...

-I Voted against national security funding and military funding numerous times, yet ol Edwards yelped about destroying terrorists, yea.... thats just what we need, take away money from national security and the military, that'll get those terrorists..

-I have ideals for strengthing our Homeland Security, but I'm gonna take money from it, hows that going to strengthen it?

-I'm is a pacifist pussy.

-I said at the Vietnam hearings "We can't just be going around trying to spred democracy everywhere" So, Live under a Dictator? Want help? Well your not getting any from me, cause I wanna raise taxes and give more money to medicade so ol' man river can by his medication for %15 cheaper, and try to focus on making the economy improve, then have it fall again 8 years later, since thats a standard pattern that people don't seem to notice... but since I'm ****ing you over, Mr. Thirdworld, people will look back and say "He was a good president, look at what he did to the economy" Cause I've got 5 homes worth over a total of 60 million dollars, not to metion the 17 million dollar vacation home in Italy I sold last year

-Oh, did I mention that while I was a private through out all 4 months of my military service, I won 3 purple hearts! Shrapnel wounds? Nah, Missing leg? Ho,ho, no..., But I did pull a guy out of a river back into the boat, and got shot in my leg and ass while relaying messages for me ol' Sarge!

-I'm an ugly, ugly son of a bitch.

Just laying it out there, don't respond, just read it, and then continue.

[ffmariners]

Originally Posted by SPLADOW!

John Kerry:

-I was in Vietnam for a whopping 4 months...

-Anulled a 14 year marriage...

Bush- Pussy who joins reserve and then skips out on training excercises

-Vote for something, then vote against it, vote for something, vote against it...

I expect this from someone who does not know much about government. See, when a bill is being passed there are MANY parts. So, a bill might be formed to give $$ to the soldiers. Great idea in concept, then the republicans will make a modification that says this $$ needs to come from social security or education. NOT so good an idea anymore. How to get rid of this? Vote against the WHOLE bill! So your flip flops you speak of are what most politicians must do, sacrifice the heart of some things [like soldier aid] because of small little things like the welfare of out nation.

Oh, and BTW, Bush wants to take billions away from the VA.
In other words: Thanks for fighting my war and getting injured! BTW, you have no more benefits through Veterans Affairs anymore!

-MY wife, or basically my sugarmomma is worth billions, yet you still say Bush is a money whore, muhahaha...

Mmmm ok? Ever heard of a prenupt? Kerry himself is not worth a billion, his wife is through investments.

-I Voted against national security funding and military funding numerous times, yet ol Edwards yelped about destroying terrorists, yea.... thats just what we need, take away money from national security and the military, that'll get those terrorists..

Just read above, Kerry is in support of the war now that we are there. Once its started you cant 'just leave.' But he is against taking all of US $$ and throwing it at Iraq. Read above, Bush is taking away health benefits of soldiers.

-I have ideals for strengthing our Homeland Security, but I'm gonna take money from it, hows that going to strengthen it?

Do we need $30 billion for national security? Rather than throw $100 billion at Iraq, use that money to get enough workers at airports? Do you know how many people guard the airport perimeters? Usually two on a shift... and thats a stretch of up to 50 miles....

-I'm is a pacifist pussy.

cite: jibjab.com

-I said at the Vietnam hearings "We can't just be going around trying to spred democracy everywhere" So, Live under a Dictator? Want help? Well your not getting any from me, cause I wanna raise taxes and give more money to medicade so ol' man river can by his medication for %15 cheaper, and try to focus on making the economy improve, then have it fall again 8 years later, since thats a standard pattern that people don't seem to notice... but since I'm ****ing you over, Mr. Thirdworld, people will look back and say "He was a good president, look at what he did to the economy" Cause I've got 5 homes worth over a total of 60 million dollars, not to metion the 17 million dollar vacation home in Italy I sold last year

Many countries do fine under a dictator. Democracy/Republicanism is not for every country. AND you meant medicare, not medicade, I believe. Are you saying the medicine prices are not high? My mom's diabetes medicine sure as hell is like an arm and a leg, which she NEEDS to live. So, yeah, ol man river... And I would rather pay 2% more in taxes than have the richest 2% get 10% tax cuts and divident tax cuts which will throw our country from surplus into debt.

-Oh, did I mention that while I was a private through out all 4 months of my military service, I won 3 purple hearts! Shrapnel wounds? Nah, Missing leg? Ho,ho, no..., But I did pull a guy out of a river back into the boat, and got shot in my leg and ass while relaying messages for me ol' Sarge!

So my dad was in Vietnam, you know one of the most dangerous positions? Other than an officer due to the nice shiny star they had on their helmet... it was a radio man. Why? Because take out the armies communications and you can rip em apart. The N.Vietnamese tactics have this in them, pretty much states "aim for shiny star and/or radio man next to him."

And I guess pulling a guy to safety from drowning was bad. And is it his fault the enemy had bad aim? HE GOT SHOT. More than GW sacrificed for his country...

-I'm an ugly, ugly son of a bitch.

Just laying it out there, don't respond, just read it, and then continue.

AND GW isnt ugly? hahahha

And you lay it out there, prepare for it to get chopped up.

[Interactive]

Originally Posted by ffmariners

I would love to find a person who doesnt slack off at work.

GW does it at his ranch, and I bet his wife ****s him there. So all of a sudden the President can not have sexual desire or time off?

And where you say JFK was not great, you have no support of that. And once again, you completely ignore part of it - Thomas Jefferson. Tell me, was he not a great president, too? I am sorry, but ones fidelity to their wife does not mirror their achievements in office.

I don't think the content of this message really needs to be tolerated here, let it be heard.

Why does GW have a setup for his cabinet at his ranch? Why does he do a lot of communication from his ranch? Why did Clinton goto Camp David all the time?

[Interactive]

Originally Posted by ffmariners

US Tanks are made for open field battle, like Iraq. Korea is a mountanious area, with deep rivers. The Koreans have tanks that can go into 6m deep water, travel rougher terrain, and are faster.

That is horribly wrong, the point of a tank is to be a versatle, moving piece of equipment. Otherwise our army would just drive large artillary pieces around and blast people from a distance...

[ffmariners]

Originally Posted by Interactive

That is horribly wrong, the point of a tank is to be a versatle, moving piece of equipment. Otherwise our army would just drive large artillary pieces around and blast people from a distance...

ummm...
US tanks are designed to operate in open fields.

take for example in 1941, Rommel of Germany defeated British troops in North Africa with tanks. The largest tank battle was fought at Kursk in 1943, in which the Soviets defeated Germans. In 1973, Egypt defeated Israeli tanks with anti-tank missiles. All of these tank battles were fought in open fields. The Gulf War and the recent war in Iraq saw US tanks in open fields.

So every war we haved used tanks in has been open fields, except vietnam... and we know how useful tanks were then lol

well if you dont know all the tanks did was break down cause they couldnt handle the terrain. my dad was a tank mechanic in vietnam, i know this as a fact.

American and Western tank commanders do not know how to fight tank battles in rugged terrains... so not only is the actual tank useless out of open fields, the leaders are inept too

[ffmariners]

Originally Posted by Interactive

I don't think the content of this message really needs to be tolerated here, let it be heard.

Why does GW have a setup for his cabinet at his ranch? Why does he do a lot of communication from his ranch? Why did Clinton goto Camp David all the time?

Of course, censorship rocks, why tolerate something you do not like to hear?

And GW does not do much at his ranch, if he actually did work then afghanistan and n. korea war plans would have been modernized before 9/11. too bad they were not...

and clinton may have gone to camp david (alot of the time with foreign ambassadors by the way) but he was not on vacation as much as GW

[Interactive]

"GW does it at his ranch, and I bet his wife ****s him there. So all of a sudden the President can not have sexual desire or time off?"

You really think that added much to your message? Not at all, if we were censoring everyone I would have banned you along time ago for having an opinion that disagreed with mine... Keep in mind too that this is a privately owned forum.

You can't please them all.