The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (quote, Hang)

[swim]

Originally Posted by oojay

Someone could tell me that a rock they found was made of the super rare element "kryptonite" and I wouldnt belive it just b/c ive never been told otherwise. youre just making assumptions that children have no free will or common sense. And once again, its impossible to say that im not a woman beater b/c of my influences. I CHOOSE not to be a wife beater.

I am talking about a kid. Who hasn't been taught better! You have common sense because of the situations you've been through.


I'm not jumping to the middle. I'm saying your dna influences how you act from the start and situations form from that. Those situations shape you.

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

On what criteria would one pick a friend? Someone similar to you, correct? Which, sadly, maybe looks or sex. But also what tv, sports, music and other basic things you have in common.

All of those things were exposed to you by your parents which you have no control over.

you may pick friends with similar interests, but unless you compare your genetic make-up to all potential friends, then your story hold no weight. And once again, you can choose whether or not to watch the barney dvd your parents put in for you. please stop assuming that young people have no free will.

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

I am talking about a kid. Who hasn't been taught better! You have common sense because of the situations you've been through.


I'm not jumping to the middle. I'm saying your dna influences how you act from the start and situations form from that. Those situations shape you.

your DNA has nothing to do with you crapping your pants or cooing at a ceiling fan when youre 8 months old.

[swim]

Why not? It's only the instructions for your whole body.

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

Why not? It's only the instructions for your whole body.

If what youre saying is correct, then everyone's actions and their entire life would be pre-determined, thus taking free will out of the equation. I assume this is what youre getting at (being a nihilist). It is your opinion, you are completely entilted to it, bit I simply disagree. To each his own.

[swim]

Originally Posted by oojay

If what youre saying is correct

Originally Posted by wiki

Deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) is a nucleic acid that contains the genetic instructions for the development and function of living things. All known cellular life and some viruses contain DNA. The main role of DNA in the cell is the long-term storage of information. It is often compared to a blueprint, since it contains the instructions to construct other components of the cell, such as proteins and RNA molecules. The DNA segments that carry genetic information are called genes, but other DNA sequences have structural purposes, or are involved in regulating the expression of genetic information.

Please tell me you knew that dna is the instructions for your body.

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

Please tell me you knew that dna is the instructions for your body.

Look, im not retarded. I know what DNA is and how it works. But using it describe why someone kills is retarded. DNA determines what you look like, not your actions 24 years down the line. So if youre done googling DNA and using big words to try to back up an obvioulsy flawed view, then lets get back to the point of the thread, umkay.

[cardboard adolescent]

You didn't respond to any of my arguments on page 3, but whatever. This argument could go on forever.

[swim]

Originally Posted by oojay

Look, im not retarded. I know what DNA is and how it works. But using it describe why someone kills is retarded. DNA determines what you look like, not your actions 24 years down the line. So if youre done googling DNA and using big words to try to back up an obvioulsy flawed view, then lets get back to the point of the thread, umkay.

Why not? It determines what you look which sometimes determines what people think of you which determines who will hangout with you which determines who you're friends are which determines what you're exposed which creates actions. Those atributes could be linked to advantage at talents or lack there of. Atributes you had no control over.

Do you know how in depth dna is?

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

You didn't respond to any of my arguments on page 3, but whatever. This argument could go on forever.

Pretty sure that I did, just read the other posts on page 3
And yeah, im pretty bored with this topic too :\