The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (country, American, member, speakers)

[hookers with machineguns]

You guys seem to have quick judgments about the states without living here. Not to say the things you say are wrong, but some of you certainly act like you know more about this country than the people who live here.
^^I agree with you, but what majority population in the world actually thinks objectively? In the US, it is difficult to meet people who do, because seemingly everyone has a strong political or religious bias. Usually, the people in the middle are too cynical or too apathetic. Yet your statement can really be applied to anyone in any part of the world.
^^^ Iraq is/was a disaster, no matter how you look at it. But, Saddam was a threat, moreso to his own people. He potentially was a global threat, but this is long-term, he certainly wasn't an imminent threat. The U.S. should have focused all their attention on the Afghanistan/Pakistan border, where many Taliban and Osama officials are STILL hiding. Saying war is bad is historically irrelevant; besides, do you think America should just take it on the chin after 9/11?
^How much access do you have to American media? You seem to know much about it, maybe your countrymen do to. Regardless, the majority of Americans focus on one kind of media, which would be Hollywood gossip. The fact is, not as many people watch the news outlets as much as you think. That is equally as big a problem as what you said. But, media distortion is all part of the game, not just in the U.S. Have you ever seen news casts where they actually give mostly good news? No. If it weren't for bad news, then their wouldn't be anything to report, because hardly anyone would watch it.

[Sweet Jane]

Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns

I agree with you, but what majority population in the world actually thinks objectively? In the US, it is difficult to meet people who do, because seemingly everyone has a strong political or religious bias. Usually, the people in the middle are too cynical or too apathetic. Yet your statement can really be applied to anyone in any part of the world.

The majority of Americans focus on one kind of media, which would be Hollywood gossip. The fact is, not as many people watch the news outlets as much as you think.

Your second statement scares me, I assumed if I said something like that I would be accused of ludicrous stereotyping.

The first statement, well a lot more states have more powers that make them think more objectively about their actions. In my country, we have our own Parliament who passes laws on various things. We're also governed by the UK parliament, where the government can do what they want, but there are 2 Houses that have to pass any laws that get through, and thirdly, the Monarchy have to approve also. Don't get me started on the Monarchy though, basically apart from that particular fuction, I think they are a joke. Fourthly, we are governed by the European Regulations, and cannot do anything than contravenes the Convention. So America have more power here than most places, I think thats why a lot of people hate it, but maybe for some, its jealousy. But I think thats why things are able to get a little more out of hand.

Originally Posted by iamalejo

Isn't that better than never getting involved at all?

Is that really the only two choices you think the US have considered? Helping out when there is something to be gained or not at all?
What about getting involved in the countries who are in similar trouble to what happened in Iraq but who don't have any oil or any other way they could pay your country back?