The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (house, quote, Gender, Organ)

[DontRunMeOver]

Originally Posted by oojay

i think it is religiously wrong. it says so in the bible.

Even if it's religiously wrong, making it illegal doesn't stop people from being homosexual. My take is that by making homosexuality illegal or even just more taboo, all you end up with is a lot of homosexuals who stay in the closet - which is painful for them and, well... brings up other issues... which would you be happier with Oojay? Lots of blatent ***s hanging around, or the same number of ***s around but most of them claiming to be straight, getting married and ignoring their wives, sneaking little peeks at you in the locker room at the gym?

[Alo]

Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

I'm not sure about the logic of 'a baby would be better off not being born than being born to a teen'. I agree with the foetus being part of the woman and not an independant entity until it's birth though. The argument that a foetus could become a little baby so stopping its growth is murdering a baby could also be used to argue against any kind of contraception. All human sperm and eggs have the potential to become humans, so not having sex many times every day is also in a sense a 'murder of babies'.

I think it's better for a teen to finish school, and for a child to be properly raised in a mother-father (more combinations of sexes possible) condition. 14-yearolds with babies just doesn't seem right.

[DontRunMeOver]

Originally Posted by Alo

I think it's better for a teen to finish school, and for a child to be properly raised in a mother-father (more combinations of sexes possible) condition. 14-yearolds with babies just doesn't seem right.

I agree with that. Really its for the benefit of the teen, not the 'baby'. But its the teen's body and I think she should be able to do with it as she pleases. Or, well, she should at least have the choice in matters like this.

[DearJenny]

Originally Posted by Alo

14-yearolds with babies just doesn't seem right.

My friend is fifteen and pregnant. She's seeing it through though. I commend her spirit, I dont think I could stand to be a mother at fifteen.

But being eighteen on the other hand.....my last boyfriend didnt want to use condoms, he just wanted to pull out(but thats how my fiftee-year-old friend got pregnant). He said accidents happen and if it did, he'd pay for the abortion. That really pissed me off because it was like "you would kill off a symbol of our love because accidents happen?" Bull****. I'm still pro-choice because REAL accidents do happen, like a condom breaking, or daterape. But not using a condom is a concious decision.


Anyway......to get off that VERY touchy subject. There is a proposal in my county to STOP AFFIRMATIVE ACTION! Woot! Admission into intstitutions should be considered by strictly academics alone!

And there is another proposal to stop shooting mourning doves. The arguement is "there is no reason to shoot them." I say "there's no reason not to!" Shoot the suckers, they're annoying.

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

I don`t agree with abortion but who am I to tell a girl if she should keep it or not.I wouldn`t think any less of her if she chose to have one.

Life isn`t all sweetness & roses & harsh descisions need to be made sometimes,and people react in different ways.

[Alo]

Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

I agree with that. Really its for the benefit of the teen, not the 'baby'. But its the teen's body and I think she should be able to do with it as she pleases. Or, well, she should at least have the choice in matters like this.

Then we are on the same line.

Originally Posted by CityLightsLikeRain

My friend is fifteen and pregnant. She's seeing it through though. I commend her spirit, I dont think I could stand to be a mother at fifteen.

But being eighteen on the other hand.....my last boyfriend didnt want to use condoms, he just wanted to pull out(but thats how my fiftee-year-old friend got pregnant). He said accidents happen and if it did, he'd pay for the abortion. That really pissed me off because it was like "you would kill off a symbol of our love because accidents happen?" Bull****. I'm still pro-choice because REAL accidents do happen, like a condom breaking, or daterape. But not using a condom is a concious decision.

Yeah, I guess you're right. But why didn't you start taking the pill? It's more secure than condoms, and it makes your tits grow.

[Raine]

Originally Posted by oojay

So this is the place to get out all of your pent up political aggression. No more spamming other threads with your (my or Raine's) crackpot political views. Well today is election day. It is a distinct possibility that Republicans could lose control of Congress. And if I hear the words "Speaker of the House Pelosi" I may go on a shooting spree.

Pelosi will most likely become speaker of the house. now if hilary clinton makes it into the white house, all hell will break loose and i'll go on a killing spree.

in any event, i just came from my polling center and made a few exit polls. It looks like my disctrict is going democratic.
I think the eigth district will go republican though. (that's just my guess)
and the voter turn out is larger than I initially hoped. However, there are a lot of first time voters in my area and one of the exit poll questions was about the war in iraq and some of them didn't seem to know more about it than iraq was in the middle east. At one point (a 19 year old dude) thought the US captured osama bin laden.

a lot of people it turns out (my to my surprise) are against abortion. and gay marriage.

Oh and PS: speak for yourself my political views are not crackpot I'll have you know.

[DearJenny]

Originally Posted by Alo

Yeah, I guess you're right. But why didn't you start taking the pill? It's more secure than condoms, and it makes your tits grow.

I havent gotten around to seeing a gyno yet. And I got lucky and no "accidents" happened. I thought one did and then he broke up with me and I got scared and pissed.....but it was a false alert, I'm fine. But bigger boobs? I need to get on that now! lol.


And dammit, democrats are pretty much sweeping the elections here in michigan. Looks like Jennifer Granholm is re-eelcted as governer in Michigan, dammit!

Did all states have an increase in trash-talking advertisements this year? I mean, it got really bad this time. Three year olds fight more intelligently than them.

[[MERIT]]

haha as of right now Talent is trampiling McCaskill (MO senate), but its only 20% reporting so far.

[tdoc210]

Originally Posted by CityLightsLikeRain

My friend is fifteen and pregnant. She's seeing it through though. I commend her spirit, I dont think I could stand to be a mother at fifteen.

But being eighteen on the other hand.....my last boyfriend didnt want to use condoms, he just wanted to pull out(but thats how my fiftee-year-old friend got pregnant). He said accidents happen and if it did, he'd pay for the abortion. That really pissed me off because it was like "you would kill off a symbol of our love because accidents happen?" Bull****. I'm still pro-choice because REAL accidents do happen, like a condom breaking, or daterape. But not using a condom is a concious decision.


Anyway......to get off that VERY touchy subject. There is a proposal in my county to STOP AFFIRMATIVE ACTION! Woot! Admission into intstitutions should be considered by strictly academics alone!

And there is another proposal to stop shooting mourning doves. The arguement is "there is no reason to shoot them." I say "there's no reason not to!" Shoot the suckers, they're annoying.

no do not shoot them, ill take care of them, ****ing christ****, there birds who do nothing wrong