The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (effects, cover, quote, Alto)

Merkaba · 11-19-2005, 01:53 AM

No I know. But it is interesting to note that scientific research has proven we are getting smaller and smaller and smaller as humans as time rolls on. It is again only suggesting that we once came from apes, and are getting further and further away from that species. Research would probably also suggest this is because we are becoming less and less inactive due to media and whatnot, therefore it is again only assumption as to whether we evolve, I guess we'll never know.

franscar · 11-19-2005, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

And that is just a theory based on substantial evidence...It dosent directly prove or disprove anything.

Which is what creationists have been saying about everything put in front of them for the past two centuries, so the entire debate is irrelevant. Religious followers will refuse to look at any evidence without blinding scepticism, whilst also believing themselves to have no motive to produce any evidence of their own belief.

And lo, the circle continues.

boo boo · 11-19-2005, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by franscar

Which is what creationists have been saying about everything put in front of them for the past two centuries, so the entire debate is irrelevant. Religious followers will refuse to look at any evidence without blinding scepticism, whilst also believing themselves to have no motive to produce any evidence of their own belief.

And lo, the circle continues.

My motive isnt proving that god created the universe, im not religiously motivated, more or less, im pointing out the flaws in Darwins theory, and there are many.

boo boo · 11-19-2005, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba

The theory of creationism is just the word of man, just like the bible is. It's hard to believe such tales when it all acts as one big chinese whisper, you couldn't get a straight answer unless you talked to "God" himself. And he never answers because he's to busy watching Hurricne Katrina wipe out thousands of religous faithful. Are you telling me he doesn't have the power to stop a little bit of rain? Wheres the bible on that one. "Err and in the unfortunate event such as a Hurricane, God knows he will be sending many people to a better place"

**** off...

Well, most christians believe that god chooses not to intervine and instead lets people solve their own problems.

You can bring up natural disasters and deseases and go on about how no one deserves to have that kind of **** to happen to them, but most christians also believe those things to be the after effects of Sin...In other words, mother natures punishment to mankind for all their sins...I know that isnt the anwser you were looking for but meh.

adidasss · 11-19-2005, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba

So do you all believe a God was behind the creation of the Universe? It answers more questions then the big bang theory but still seems a little cheesy.

The theory of creationism is just the word of man, just like the bible is. It's hard to believe such tales when it all acts as one big chinese whisper, you couldn't get a straight answer unless you talked to "God" himself. And he never answers because he's to busy watching Hurricne Katrina wipe out thousands of religous faithful. Are you telling me he doesn't have the power to stop a little bit of rain? Wheres the bible on that one. "Err and in the unfortunate event such as a Hurricane, God knows he will be sending many people to a better place"

**** off...

so are you saying that in order for god to exist, and be pure goodness, our lives must be perfect and without pain.....can you imagine what sort of life would it be if we were constantly happy and felt no pain? i think that's exactly what makes this form of existance so special, because all of it prepares us for the next level...and when thinkng about the creation of us all and the universe, one must take into cosideration time right? so how far back can we go? what is infinity? if they say the universe was created 5 billion years ago, what was there before it? nothing? how can something be created out of nothing? and if there is no god or the afterlife, what is the purpose of our existace? why are we alive and able to think about our own mortality?

adidasss · 11-19-2005, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Well, most christians believe that god chooses not to intervine and instead lets people solve their own problems.

You can bring up natural disasters and deseases and go on about how no one deserves to have that kind of **** to happen to them, but most christians also believe those things to be the after effects of Sin...In other words, mother natures punishment to mankind for all their sins...I know that isnt the anwser you were looking for but meh.

what the hell are you talking about?! christians don't believe god punishes anyone in this life, that would be the jews

franscar · 11-19-2005, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

My motive isnt proving that god created the universe, im not religiously motivated, more or less, im pointing out the flaws in Darwins theory, and there are many.

Which is why ever since he first proposed it people have questioned it, made further discoveries, added to it and rejected it. Science is an ever-evolving subject, taking account of the improvements in understanding being made every second of every day.

boo boo · 11-19-2005, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

what the hell are you talking about?! christians don't believe god punishes anyone in this life, that would be the jews

Several christians do too...They believe we are punished in this life, and in the next, unless we repent.

madeinNY · 11-19-2005, 09:46 AM

I have pretty low faith right now so I'm pretty much following Nostradamus. heh.

Religion is man-made. I really don't believe in any Religion (correct my grammar is Religion shouldn't be capitilized in a sentence...I wasn't sure.) I kinda just have beliefs of my own.

Religion is so, because some people need to hold on to it. Like Moses said.

boo boo · 11-19-2005, 10:34 AM

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I have pretty low faith right now so I'm pretty much following Nostradamus. heh.

Religion is man-made. I really don't believe in any Religion (correct my grammar is Religion shouldn't be capitilized in a sentence...I wasn't sure.) I kinda just have beliefs of my own.

Religion is so, because some people need to hold on to it. Like Moses said.

Believing in god dosent automaticly mean you are religious...Theres a slight difference between being a spirital person and a religious person.

11-19-2005, 01:53 AM	#741 (permalink)
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,885	No I know. But it is interesting to note that scientific research has proven we are getting smaller and smaller and smaller as humans as time rolls on. It is again only suggesting that we once came from apes, and are getting further and further away from that species. Research would probably also suggest this is because we are becoming less and less inactive due to media and whatnot, therefore it is again only assumption as to whether we evolve, I guess we'll never know. __________________ She thinks I'm a reclusive genius, she's going to be very disappointed when she finds out i'm a reclusive wanker

11-19-2005, 09:46 AM	#749 (permalink)
madeinNY [[la de da diddy da]] Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NY...duh. Posts: 444	I have pretty low faith right now so I'm pretty much following Nostradamus. heh. Religion is man-made. I really don't believe in any Religion (correct my grammar is Religion shouldn't be capitilized in a sentence...I wasn't sure.) I kinda just have beliefs of my own. Religion is so, because some people need to hold on to it. Like Moses said. __________________ I cleared out my PM box...I promise. lol