The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (country, effect, quote, Lute)

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by Crowquill

Sex leads to love? fix your logic a bit.

Why SHOULD marriage be between a man and a woman?

b/c thats how god intended for it to be. 2 men in love or 2 women in love is false. they may sinfully lust for each other, but its not love.




edit: and yes, SEX LEADS TO LOVE.

[sleepy jack]

Originally Posted by oojay

b/c thats how god intended for it to be. 2 men in love or 2 women in love is false. they may sinfully lust for each other, but its not love.




edit: and yes, SEX LEADS TO LOVE.

What about atheists? Do they have to follow your Christian rules?

And I don't think sex leads to love, I wouldn't have sex with someone if I didn't love them.

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by Crowquill

What about atheists? Do they have to follow your Christian rules?

And I don't think sex leads to love, I wouldn't have sex with someone if I didn't love them.

no one has to follow them, but its most likely a good idea. just because someone doesnt believe in hell doesnt mean it doesnt exist, or that they wont be going there.



good for you. but unfortunately, many people do have sex with people they dont love. like promiscuous g@ys for instance.



well, im off to bed. we can continue this tomorrow, if you still feel so inclined to advocate the g@y butt-f**king and all.



(and sorry for the potty talk, im tired and a bit grumpy tonight)

[Raine]

Originally Posted by oojay

no im not financially ready right now, but if it'll save a life, then I'd do it if need.


you arrest no one. she tried to murder her baby and died in the process. serves her right for attempting to murder an innocent child.

Doctors take a hippocratic oath that says they cannot take a life and blah blah blah. This why when people who get the death penalty and have to die by lethal injection do not have a dcotor stick them with a needle. (however a doctor does supervise it)
In most states where abortion is legal, most doctors who have to perform an abortion usually don't do it or will tell the patient that it isn't a good idea to have an abortion when the fertilized egg is past the first trimeter.
After the first trimester the fertilized egg resemles human features. Like arms, legs and whatnot.

You and I are human. we have human physical charcteristics and we are capable of conscious thought. A fetus is not capable of conscious thought. and if it is, it can't voice its opinion, can't protest to such a procedure.
Think about kids who are medically emancipated fromt heir parents. They are capable of conscious thought and recognize when their parents are neglecting their medical needs.
An unborn child can't do that.

Part of the reason abortion is legal in some sattes is because those states have developed new defintiions for what makes a human a human.

Originally Posted by oojay

b/c marriage should be between a man and a woman, just like sex. sex is meant for procreation, sex leads to love, love leads to marriage. g@ys cant procreate.



edit: im trying to give reasons that dont have to do with it being morally wrong, per my christian beliefs, since that reason seems to get shot down for some reason.

If sex is meant for procreation then what about oral sex. When guys have felations or when a girl has cunnilingus, the intent is not to procreate. Of this I am sure.

And if you're saying that sex should only be between people that want to procreate and since ***s can't procreate with their partner, then maybe we (or you) shouldn't think of the intimate acts between homosexuals as sex but rather a pleasurable activity.

I don't mind that most of your beliefs are in some way shaped by your religious values but come on now, religion is backwards sometimes.
it wasn't until about 2 decades ago that the Catholic Church (a religious institution) finally apologized for having Galileo killed because he said the Earth wasn't the center of the universe.

And sex doesn't lead to love. Sex leads to orgasm. if you happen to feel some other emotional feeling, then fine.

[sleepy jack]

I have a question for Oojay, you've been using Christianity as your ground for alot of things, but according to your logic sex before marriage is okay.

Explain.

[Raine]

Originally Posted by Crowquill

I have a question for Oojay, you've been using Christianity as your ground for alot of things, but according to your logic sex before marriage is okay.

Explain.

religion (and lakc thereof) is one of the elements in dtermining what a person thinks is right or wrong.

[hiu]

Raine is a buddist monk.

[tdoc210]

"well its not really fair if youre just assuming that all babies will die upon birth. ABORTION IS MURDER"

well
technichally its not
because
the fetus has not taken a breath yet

[Raine]

Originally Posted by Mamagarmr

"well its not really fair if youre just assuming that all babies will die upon birth. ABORTION IS MURDER"

Murder is a crime and is illegal.
So if abortion is murder why is it legal in some states?

[tdoc210]

Originally Posted by oojay

well its not really fair if youre just assuming that all babies will die upon birth. ABORTION IS MURDER




and i do get your point. i know i cant stop g@ys from ahving sex or loving each other, but thats where it needs to stop. they dont need to get married even if they think they "love" each other.

whats wrong with *** people
you seem to love watching oiled men grope themselves
why dont you say this to addidass.
Love is not determined by you
*** people are people who can love, probably more
than hetero's anyway