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Old 07-28-2006, 08:31 PM   #1811 (permalink)
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So by ended he meant, didn't end?
There is no inbetween, either it ended or it didn't.

I understand that the Civil War was a great help in having slavery legally abolished, but war has never put a definite end on anything.
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:33 PM   #1812 (permalink)
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So by ended he meant, didn't end?
There is no inbetween, either it ended or it didn't.
Did you ever consider, it ending didn't have to be a international thing? It could refer to a specific area where a war was fought over a said thing?
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:37 PM   #1813 (permalink)
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I hated this because I literally lost part of my family because of it.
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:38 PM   #1814 (permalink)
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I don't care what Howard Zim says. He's a liar and a communist.
It's so good to see people throwing off the shackles of McArthyism.

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and Neo Nazism popular in America? What are you going on about?
I mean that the movement of Neo Nazism in America is large and growing. I brought it up because tDoC said that the Nazi Party in Germany is popular. Not popular in the same way that the Democrat or Republican party is popular, obviously they remain a small minority with support of only a snip of the population, but they're still able to muster large rallies.
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:18 PM   #1815 (permalink)
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What war ended slavery?
The Emancipation Proclamtion took care of that, and it wasn't fully abolished for many years later.
The Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in Confederate territories, and if it weren't for the war Abraham Lincoln would have had no power to give that proclamation. Therefore, you are wrong. Without the war slavery wouldn't have ended in the US.


And to the others, I'm sorry I wasn't as specific and gave specific events for which I meant. I figured you all could figure it out on your own instead of picking on my how general I was. Gave you a little too much credit I guess.
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:20 PM   #1816 (permalink)
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It being illegal, doesn't mean it has ended.
I guess heroin and crack cocaine usage has ended as well.
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:24 PM   #1817 (permalink)
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This is the most pointless argument. The point was, if it wasn't for wars, the world would probably be a much worse place (because Nazi Germany would probably be in control). So instead of arguing semantics, examine the actual argument that has been presented.
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It being illegal, doesn't mean it has ended.
I guess heroin and crack cocaine usage has ended as well.
Haha, so you are taking my point and trying to push your extreme denial of the fact with some horrible justification? Nice.

Well how about we just say it's not "socially acceptable".
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I mean that the movement of Neo Nazism in America is large and growing. I brought it up because tDoC said that the Nazi Party in Germany is popular. Not popular in the same way that the Democrat or Republican party is popular, obviously they remain a small minority with support of only a snip of the population, but they're still able to muster large rallies.
The KKK can still as well and most of the time it's to show why they are the laughing stock that they are today.
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It's so good to see people throwing off the shackles of McArthyism.



I mean that the movement of Neo Nazism in America is large and growing. I brought it up because tDoC said that the Nazi Party in Germany is popular. Not popular in the same way that the Democrat or Republican party is popular, obviously they remain a small minority with support of only a snip of the population, but they're still able to muster large rallies.

I don't know about him being a commie (that part was a joke). But he is a liar.

and in that case, yeah. It's sad as hell.
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