The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (country, American, cover, quote)

[caughstealingstars]

Originally Posted by Jonah

Dear caughstealingstars:

I sense that you are young.....not much...but young enough to still be in high school, and have people teach you what they believe. However, once you graduate, you'll learn that life isn't about what everyone tells you...but it's what you do with that knowlege with which they share with you. For example: If and when you attend college, much of what you learn that is debatable is open-ended knowlege, which means they teach you what they want you to know, but it's not flat out "this is how it is, this is the wrong way, this is the right thing to do, etc." You discuss, and weigh the pros and cons.

My point is, you seem to have many questions, and questions are great...
My advice to you would be to research, and read up on things....see both sides of everything, then make a logical judgement. You may like America now, but you may see things differently when you pay taxes, or when you're directly effected with society on an adult level.

As for personal preference...I don't like to get deep with my opinions...talk to me in person and I'll talk. I do, however, admire Canada greatly.

i'm not saying i like american a ton.,,. i effing hate bush, but that's what i made this thread for was to hear the pros and cons and the open ended parts of the story,

[caughstealingstars]

Originally Posted by amber

Are you an immigrant or something?Sure,we have our freedom,but at a price-we are fat and ignorant.And content with it.Our government is incredibly hypocritical,our country too meddlesome.We lack morals,values.We will bitch all day about the things that piss us off,and not do a damn thing to change them.We are pathetic.Seriously,though-read up on some other countries-you might give the almighty U.S of A. a second thought.

people are fat and complain in other countries, not just us of a,.,,. and i didn't make this thread to defend american, i just wanted to hear the people from outside the us (or inside's) different opinions, and some reasoning behind the threads like "americans suck at music"

[hopefornothing]

your just pissed cus your fat =}

[Oi_To_The_World]

Originally Posted by amber

Whoa there...have you ever EXPERIENCED any other country,any other government?Yep...Who ****ing cares?That's a damn good question-not many.And if nobody cares,how can we change,be bettered?I'm not saying we are the most awful country on earth.But there's a good possibility.

the US is certainly not the most awful country. I think most of african countries would top the list, mainly because of their disease and lack of order/strong government and food supply. america, along with members of the UN, all take some blame for the genocide, AIDS, famine breakouts in africa.
the US is certainly in better shape than Afghanistan or even Pakistan, who's people hate America but government doesnt. then you have the whole Gaza situation that will never f*cking end, because of religious turmoil
most other countries still depend on the US for exports and inports, so our economy plays a big role in the global market period.
and if you believe america is always just cause of bush and his cronies, then what about jaque chirac? putin? tony blair? these guys are certainly smarter, but their record is nothing worth showing off.

[sleepy jack]

Originally Posted by Cpt.Howdy

Who's Canada's Prime minister?

Why the **** do i care?

[[ insert name here ]]

He didnt ask you to care... he asked if you knew...

[Oi_To_The_World]

^ how about no one knows and no one cares, and we're certainly not going to solve any global problems by b*tching about it.

[[ insert name here ]]

^ True... wtf... this is a music forum not a politics forum... take this **** to the lounge.

[Raine]

As an American citizen and after living in another country, I can honestly say that every place has their own set backs.
In America it's the idiots who vote and the political parties and congress. And the stupid laws against drinking drugs and such. And in America you can find drugs, naked women (in very very very very large quantities), more alcohol than the law should allow, rapists and bunches of other wierdos.
Setbacks:
If pro and con are opposites then what's the opposite of progress?
Need I say more? Yep.
America has laws against under age drinking and smoking. And the FDA continues to crack down on drugs like marijuana, cocaine and whatnot. Tt's been proven that alochol has no benefits whatsoever and that smoking sure as heck doesn't have any benefits either. It's also been shown that drugs like cocaine and marijuana actually have some good to their uses but the FDA does not wanna put a ban on alcohol or anything. Marijuana can actually be used for some good and yet they legalize stuff like alcohol which is one of the leading causes of mental and physical retardation in babies. Or you try and rid the streets of heroine when you've got every other person on your side of the freaking planet smoking at least a pack a day in some cases and how many people are dying of smoking related causes? Stupid yeah I know. But you wanna know why? Because this country is a little backwards. Based on that statement you can assume that I am not a loyal citizen. But the bright side is I don't pay my allegaince to any other country out there.

In any case, places like Japan has it's set backs too. There are probably more alcoholics there than in any other place in the world. And Tokio probably has more teenage prostitutes than India. Those girls are crazy. And their reason for it is so wrong and low. Kinda makes you feel scared and rather disgusted.
Setbacks:
There are jerks like that newly elected senate person (or whatever his position is) is a jerk times ten. He's rigth up there with Bush only not as high on my ignorance and avoid list. And the people who vote may as well be American. They vote based on looks and status. And then you turn on the tv and you see chics like the notorious Kanno Sisters and then you look in the mirror and next thing you know you're outside on a corner selling your body so you can get a set of Pamela Andersons on your chest. It's retarded.

And like I said before, every country has it's set backs and problemas. And as much as I hate this cruddy country it does have it's bright sides. here you can drive when you're 16. (In japan i's 18) Although the racism is stifling. There are so many racists here you could never kill them all even if you dropped a couple atomic bombs on the place. There's just too many of them. Either they hate you cause you're jew and here it is they belong to a freaking cult. They hate you because you're not wearing the latest fad and they've had the same pair of sneakers for the past year and a half, they hate you because you have the worst english but they go around saying stuff like 'yo, yo what's up', and I could go on forever but I my side won't let me.
Other countries I don't care if yuo go Iraq or where ever the peopel are not the racists.
And if i had my choices of places to live I definietly wouldn't choose America. I'd either go to Lebanon, Spain, Columbia, or back to Furiyitani Wakayama-ken Japan.

Peace out.

[xEmochicKx]

Canada sucks ass