The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (alternative, Genesis, member, cover)

[Merkaba]

Originally Posted by Juggalo4life88

The schools only teach it because they oppose the Bible. They don't like the idea of having to answer to the Father. The schools are the problem, damn bigot schools.

They don't answer to the Father because it is opinionative. They don't answer to any other theory eather, for the same reason. Schools only teach what has been scientifically proven, it has nothing to do with what theory one believes in.

[Juggalo4life88]

Originally Posted by Fal

Well, that plus they have a duty to impart proven knowledge onto the new generations, to ensure that they grow to know and comprehend the past that we believe to have occurred due to abundant research, rather than the past that we believe to have occurred due to an overzealous trust in a book that's about as accurate as a blind man in an archery competition in zero gravity conditions.

Like I said, the schools are bigots. They don't have any ground to stand the thought of evolution on. What solid proof do you have? I mean don't just repeat the same thing over and over as we have been accused of. Give solid proof. If you can't do that, then evolution has proven itself false. Ask the evolutionists and they keep going around in circles. Their lame.

[bungalow]

They keep going around in circle because after having given concrete proof to fools like you, you turn around and ask the same question again. They have no choice but to go in circles.

[bungalow]

The point is, evolution is time tested. No one can prove it wrong, it works. Trial after trial after trial it works. Do you actually believe that every species that exists on earth now, existed 5 million years ago? Not only that, but evolution makes 100% perfectly logical sense. It was based on 5 years of field research, and, thought of by two respeceted scientist at approximatly the same time. This wasn't just one mans off the wall idea. The idea that species adapt to their surroundings, is that really hard for you to grasp? It is not possible that a mutation can occur during DNA replication, leading to a mutation in offspring? Do you know that these mutations occur ALL THE TIME? Do you have any understanding of basic biology? These mutations that occur, sometimes are completely unnoticable, other times they arent.

What if a mutation occured in your offsprings DNA that gave them a higher resistance to viral diseases? Then, during your childs lifetime, there is a flu pandemic that leaves millions of people dead. You offspring was able to stay alive due to this mutation in his genes. Others who surivied the pandemic also have similar mutations. These people who survived, now still have the capability to reproduce. If the people that survived are the ones who had the "diseas resistant" mutation in their DNA, and they are reproducing with each other, it is likely that the mutation will be passed down to their offspring. Over thousands of years, this can easily lead to a race of people with a very hiigh resistence to disease. These people are surving, while others without the mutations, are dying. Thus creating a new race of people. That is how evolution works. No one ever said that out of no where monkeys stopped growing fur, stood up straight, and learned to speak english.

There you go genius.

[Barnard17]

Scientists have pretty strong evidence to suggest that, during the formation of the Earth, conditions were ideal to form simple proteins, and for these proteins to bind to form DNA and single cell organisms (as far as I know, they're been able to replicate the creation of proteins out of thin air). Single cell organisms, like amoeba, can live in the most extreme conditions and you'll commonly find them living near underwater volcanoes. Naturally, cells experience random mutations as genetic strains are corrupted or form differently. Sometimes this leads to a stronger life form, which survives. Speed this up a few million years and we're crawling out the water on our bellies. Speed it up a few more million and we're monkeys building huts.

[Juggalo4life88]

Exactly.......SUGGESTS! Not proven to every degree. So how can you say God doesn't exist when you can't even prove your own theory!

[bungalow]

The difference enlies that we have "evidence"

[Barnard17]

Originally Posted by Juggalo4life88

Like I said, the schools are bigots. They don't have any ground to stand the thought of evolution on. What solid proof do you have? I mean don't just repeat the same thing over and over as we have been accused of. Give solid proof. If you can't do that, then evolution has proven itself false. Ask the evolutionists and they keep going around in circles. Their lame.

Errr.... fossils are pretty solid right? Carbon 14 dating, along with other radioactive dating, is also incredibly accurate and incredibly proven. The example of creatures, such as the Dodo, which have only been able to survive in isolated conditions due to a lack of predators but are not seen anywhere else are also pretty conclusive that the best animals survive, and the worst die. There are also species of flying lizard which have only evolved on specific, isolated islands where there are no conflicting predators. Evolutionists only go in circles because you blindly deny evidence no matter how well founded it is, purely because to question the Bible means that you actually have to make your own decisions on morality.

[mosesandtherubberducky]

Originally Posted by Juggalo4life88

Look at the Grand Canyon. Proof of the flood. Look at the bible's dates given for the crucifixtions. Only Rome did that at that time. Check the geology, visit a church. It don't matter what you say to me, you'll never convince me that the bible lies and that we came from monkeys. I hold the faith.

Errrr, the Grand Canyon isn't proof of "the flood". The Grand Canyon is proof of erosion which is a natural occurance caused by water or wind wearing away a surface. Proof of a flood would be something like a valley in an area that was a plain. But I will give you this, you are standing up for what you believe.

[bungalow]

The point is, evolution is time tested. No one can prove it wrong, it works. Trial after trial after trial it works. Do you actually believe that every species that exists on earth now, existed 5 million years ago? Not only that, but evolution makes 100% perfectly logical sense. It was based on 5 years of field research, and, thought of by two respeceted scientist at approximatly the same time. This wasn't just one mans off the wall idea. The idea that species adapt to their surroundings, is that really hard for you to grasp? It is not possible that a mutation can occur during DNA replication, leading to a mutation in offspring? Do you know that these mutations occur ALL THE TIME? Do you have any understanding of basic biology? These mutations that occur, sometimes are completely unnoticable, other times they arent.

What if a mutation occured in your offsprings DNA that gave them a higher resistance to viral diseases? Then, during your childs lifetime, there is a flu pandemic that leaves millions of people dead. You offspring was able to stay alive due to this mutation in his genes. Others who surivied the pandemic also have similar mutations. These people who survived, now still have the capability to reproduce. If the people that survived are the ones who had the "diseas resistant" mutation in their DNA, and they are reproducing with each other, it is likely that the mutation will be passed down to their offspring. Over thousands of years, this can easily lead to a race of people with a very hiigh resistence to disease. These people are surving, while others without the mutations, are dying. Thus creating a new race of people. That is how evolution works. No one ever said that out of no where monkeys stopped growing fur, stood up straight, and learned to speak english.

I would love for Juggalo4Life/ZeppelinAir (we all know they are the same person) to explain to me why this is an off the wall scenario.