The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (quote)

DontRunMeOver · 10-11-2005, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

i think it's a pretty mindless attitude, every human being starts wondering why they're here at a certain point in their life ....

That's probably true (although 'every' might be an exaggeration). Some people, however, stop wondering pretty early on and use the time which they would have spent wondering to do something else instead. I don't know why so many people feel arrogant enough to presume that if there was some 'greater reason' or 'higher power' that they would be intelligent enough to comprehend it. From what experiences I've had in my life I feel that having a shallow, superficial understanding of complex issues is of no more use than having no awareness of these issues at all. For that reason I'm not going to waste time looking for reasons which I wouldn't recognise even if they were there and will just get on with life as it is.

TheBig3 · 10-11-2005, 07:47 PM

no I'd agree with Croatian boy, Its hard to assume someone never went "I wonder how I got here."

Life a hugh series of moments, and in one of them, even inadvertantly, everyones had one thought lead to another and land them at that question. Whether people want to admit it or not.

Im not saying it has anything to do with God, or even religeon, but just with the question.

jibber · 10-11-2005, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

i think it's a pretty mindless attitude, every human being starts wondering why they're here at a certain point in their life ....

i think you misunderstood my post. I wasnt saying that I just go through life bumping off of walls without any purpose whatsoever. I was saying that I don't search for any kind of meaning or purpose of my life beyond what is going on in the present. I don't need some form of spiritual power to give my life meaning. My life has meaning because I give it meaning by doing what I am passionate about, not because of some all powerfull being that supposedly created life. I just don't think there's any value in devoting time and energy in something so abstract and unrelated to the real world and every day life.

hookers with machineguns · 10-11-2005, 10:46 PM

Well I think it's still rational to give meaning to your own life AND be curious about the "supernatural" at the same time. I feel more comfortable having faith in something, even if I have no clue what I'm having faith for.

jibber · 10-12-2005, 02:05 AM

^meh, I just don't feel comfortable with the fact that certain aspects of my life are outside of my control. I do however believe in Karma and positive and negative energy, but not so much some all-powerfull, all-knowing being.

dog · 10-12-2005, 03:53 AM

i dont care anymore, whatever happens, happens.

DontRunMeOver · 10-12-2005, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jibber

i think you misunderstood my post. I wasnt saying that I just go through life bumping off of walls without any purpose whatsoever. I was saying that I don't search for any kind of meaning or purpose of my life beyond what is going on in the present. I don't need some form of spiritual power to give my life meaning. My life has meaning because I give it meaning by doing what I am passionate about, not because of some all powerfull being that supposedly created life. I just don't think there's any value in devoting time and energy in something so abstract and unrelated to the real world and every day life.

Well put! Focus on what you're doing and actually get somewhere with it. Nice one.

adidasss · 10-12-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jibber

i think you misunderstood my post. I wasnt saying that I just go through life bumping off of walls without any purpose whatsoever. I was saying that I don't search for any kind of meaning or purpose of my life beyond what is going on in the present. I don't need some form of spiritual power to give my life meaning. My life has meaning because I give it meaning by doing what I am passionate about, not because of some all powerfull being that supposedly created life. I just don't think there's any value in devoting time and energy in something so abstract and unrelated to the real world and every day life.

well the difference between you and me is that i consider faith to be very much related to every day life

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 10-13-2005, 01:59 AM

Well hasn't this thread blossomed?

DontRunMeOver · 10-13-2005, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

well the difference between you and me is that i consider faith to be very much related to every day life

Whether or not any of the figures focussed on by religion actually exist, how - in what actual ways - is 'faith' very much related to everyday life?

10-11-2005, 07:47 PM	#682 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	no I'd agree with Croatian boy, Its hard to assume someone never went "I wonder how I got here." Life a hugh series of moments, and in one of them, even inadvertantly, everyones had one thought lead to another and land them at that question. Whether people want to admit it or not. Im not saying it has anything to do with God, or even religeon, but just with the question. __________________ I've moved to a new address

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jibber Freeskier Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Istanbul was Constantinople now it's Istanbul not Constantinople... Posts: 1,536	^meh, I just don't feel comfortable with the fact that certain aspects of my life are outside of my control. I do however believe in Karma and positive and negative energy, but not so much some all-powerfull, all-knowing being. __________________ What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road. William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass. HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER

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10-13-2005, 01:59 AM	#689 (permalink)
Scarlett O'Hara Make it so Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,181	Well hasn't this thread blossomed? __________________ "Elph is truly an enfant terrible of the forum, bless and curse him" - Marie, Queen of Thots