The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (country, Queen, Europe, American)

[franscar]

Originally Posted by IamAlejo

I have...Have you? I've been to England and I'm not a fan of it. People say we are lazy, and then complain about our government. The reason many are so lazy is that the government gives them every damn thing they need.

What's wrong with England? Apart from the weather, obviously.

My personal take:

People hate America because of the stereotypes they see. Americans are fat, they know nothing about the wider world apart from that every other country in the world is beneath them, and they don't care about anything but themselves.

I've been to the U.S. heaps of times now. New York, New Orleans and Las Vegas are the places I've been, and the people I've met have been lovely, friendly people. They didn't have the faintest idea where Birmingham was, despite it being the second largest city in England, but they were nice people.

[IamAlejo]

Actually I went to Birmingham. Nothing "wrong" with it, but if I had to compare where I would rather life, I would prefer America. Everything is basically an equal price (if not more expensive in the UK) but a large order of something over there is equivalent to a small over here. (Probably a reason for large amounts of obeisity, but I'm skinny so I need food) Also, things like elevators, stairways, and others are just plain smaller. Didn't like roadway system either, but other forms of transportation I was a HUGE fan of.

[Oi_To_The_World]

hmm ive never been to UK, but i heard everything is generally more expensive there than the US.

[i am not emo]

it is ALOT more expensive here, first thing i do when we get to the states is head for the malls....

[covle]

theres a chant that the barmy army sing over here in aus at any sporting events.
"3 dollars to a pound"
not exactly correct, but its not far off.
i must say though, i love the barmy army. all the people in it are top guy/gals but after a few beers, the traditional aussie/pommie rivalry takes over. then, when australia beats the **** out of them in every sport, most offer to buy a round. gotta love the barmy army.

[franscar]

Originally Posted by covle

then, when australia beats the **** out of them in every sport.

We haven't forgotten the Rugby World Cup yet dude.

[i am not emo]

^ haha nicely done franscar....

[Moniker]

Originally Posted by covle

^^that was humorous.

i think the worst thing about america is that it is the world power. i love america, iv been there 3 times in my life, im going again next year(after canada, before south america). but the ignorance of the majority of the citizens about the world is aberrant. ask anybody from australia who the prime minister of new zealand is, or the president of indonesia and they'll be able to tell you. ask any german who the leader of any country in europe is and they'll be able to tell you, and so forth. america is such a powerful country that they dont need to care who is leading where. in your schools you learn about your own history, not the worlds history. this isnt just accusations by the way, iv spoken to numerous people about this, the latest being matt peterson from wisconsin. he stayed at mine for a few weeks last year just after he graduated. this has been the topic of many interesting convos over the past year. i know i know "oh its a conspiracy. the government controlling our lives" all that crap. but matt spent two weeks at my school here in aus and said he'd never learnt so much about other countries than in that time. not in any geography classes or french classes, nothing like that. just in normal english classes where we debate about whats happening in whatever country. america hold america above all other nations. i know all countries do that, when the bali bombings happened(did you hear about that anywhere other than aus?) 202 people died. but the headlines in australia were "88 aussies murdered" or something. who cares? its not about the country its about the people who were killed, but america appears to be the extreme in this. do this to yourself, name the 12th president. easy? now, who fought the spanish inquisition? which political team won the russian revolution? whats the gaza strip war all about? who was the british leader of world war 2?
and i dont want any smartarsed americans looking up the answers IF they dont know them and telling me off. im not saying, every american is unable to answer such questions. but the majority is. i love your country, and im returning as soon as i can, but the fact that you are the strongest nation in the world, and by such a margin baffles me, as in comparison, your people are taught and subsequently know a lot less about the world they rule.

Very true. I was talking to some girl from Australia about schooling and history classes, and I was surprised that she'd taken a mandatory American History class. And then a Russian history class. It seemed so odd, since I'd only had to take American history and World history (mostly European). It was funny describing to her how America very literally sees itself as the bastion of all that is good in the world. I mean, Superman fights for the American Way. When you're defeating an alien race, you can bet an American is firing the death blow. It's just so insane, when you think about it in an international view, but that's what it's like to be American. All actions are justified because you already think you're the good guy. If nothing else, our educational system ingrains that into our children very effectively.

[covle]

rugby? bah! im from melbourne, rugby is about as popular as lawn bowls. if you wanna talk about rugby, talk to someone from sydney.
when did you win the world cup? lets take a moment to remember all the other sports australia and england play...

[Yellow Card]

Originally Posted by covle

rugby? bah! im from melbourne, rugby is about as popular as lawn bowls. if you wanna talk about rugby, talk to someone from sydney.
when did you win the world cup? lets take a moment to remember all the other sports australia and england play...

lol
i thought rugby was heaps popular in melbourne, maybe its just league.
hmm yes lets do look at all the other sports, like cricket, gee last time england were actually good was back when.......................gee, a long time ago