The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (single, American, quote, Lute)

[Raine]

Originally Posted by oojay

what "contradictions" are you speaking of? the fact that people want to be sworn in on prospective their holy book? the fact that religion brings morals and ethical values to our goveernment? the fact that this country was founded by christians, who intended to keep it that way?

Wedge issues.
Like abortion. Overly religious people think it's wrong and should be illegal everywhere.
*** marriage. Overly religious people think it's wrong. SOme of them haven't had a single successful marriage and they wanna keep two other people who'll probably be more successful than them from getting hitched.

And morals are a ton of bs

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by Raine

Wedge issues.
Like abortion. Overly religious people think it's wrong and should be illegal everywhere.
*** marriage. Overly religious people think it's wrong. SOme of them haven't had a single successful marriage and they wanna keep two other people who'll probably be more successful than them from getting hitched.

And morals are a ton of bs

abortion is murder. murder is wrong. you dont have to be a "Holy Roller" to figure that one out. and g@y mariage isnt a religious issue, its a moral issue. it just so happens that most people's morals are somewhat determined by their religion.

[Raine]

Originally Posted by oojay

abortion is murder. murder is wrong. you dont have to be a "Holy Roller" to figure that one out. and g@y mariage isnt a religious issue, its a moral issue. it just so happens that most people's morals are somewhat determined by their religion.

Think of abortion if you want, the fact is a woman still has to carry the thing and if she decides to get an abortion that choice should be hers and not the government's.

*** marriage should not be a moral issues. there's nothing wrong with it morally.
It's all about religion

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by Raine

Think of abortion if you want, the fact is a woman still has to carry the thing and if she decides to get an abortion that choice should be hers and not the government's.

*** marriage should not be a moral issues. there's nothing wrong with it morally.
It's all about religion

abortion is murder. period. no matter how you look at it.


g@y marriage IS a moral issue, not a religious issue. most religions dont even address it and homosexuality is just not natural. men were made for women, and women were made for men. anatomically speaking.

[Raine]

Originally Posted by oojay

abortion is murder. period. no matter how you look at it.


g@y marriage IS a moral issue, not a religious issue. most religions dont even address it and homosexuality is just not natural. men were made for women, and women were made for men. anatomically speaking.

abortion is an unnecessary evil. Not too many people like the idea of it and whether you like the idea or not it serves a purpose.

Homosexuals anatomically speaking can't produce children with their partner, and yet theire are hetero males and females that can produce their own children either.
And studies show that while homos are a minority, there sexuality is natural

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by Raine

abortion is an unnecessary evil. Not too many people like the idea of it and whether you like the idea or not it serves a purpose.

Homosexuals anatomically speaking can't produce children with their partner, and yet theire are hetero males and females that can produce their own children either.
And studies show that while homos are a minority, there sexuality is natural

yes, and that purpose is murdering innocent, undeserving, unsuspecting babies.



show me the studies. its NOT natural. and comparing heterosexual couples who are unable to conceive a child to homosexuals is retarded. you may as well be comparing them to a watermelon and a spark plug while youre at it

[Raine]

Originally Posted by oojay

yes, and that purpose is murdering innocent, undeserving, unsuspecting babies.



show me the studies. its NOT natural. and comparing heterosexual couples who are unable to conceive a child to homosexuals is retarded. you may as well be comparing them to a watermelon and a spark plug while youre at it

have you eevr thoht that perhaps a mother to be might not be good for a fetus? how many kids are born to single parent moms with substance abuse problems? The number of them that have defect and have to go intot he foster care system where they'll more than likely slipt hrough the cracks? That's one less being the american governemnt has to be repsonsible for.

have youe evr thought of post mortem depression? Then what? We choose a baby that can't fend for it self over a grown woman that can help the nation in some way.

By natural I meant genetics (you know nature versus nurture).
And studies show that you can't choose your sexuality and that as you get older you can test 9scientifically) for the symptoms. One of which is a woman (for lesbias) ability to respond to pheromones in the sweat of males. In guy's, they repsond to the pheromones of other guys released int heir sweat.

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by Raine

have you eevr thoht that perhaps a mother to be might not be good for a fetus? how many kids are born to single parent moms with substance abuse problems? The number of them that have defect and have to go intot he foster care system where they'll more than likely slipt hrough the cracks? That's one less being the american governemnt has to be repsonsible for.

have youe evr thought of post mortem depression? Then what? We choose a baby that can't fend for it self over a grown woman that can help the nation in some way.

By natural I meant genetics (you know nature versus nurture).
And studies show that you can't choose your sexuality and that as you get older you can test 9scientifically) for the symptoms. One of which is a woman (for lesbias) ability to respond to pheromones in the sweat of males. In guy's, they repsond to the pheromones of other guys released int heir sweat.

if theyre single parents with drug problems then they shouldnt have gotten pregnant in the first place. but dont kill the baby just b/c the mother is an idiot. put it up for adoption. and baby's will be born witj defects reguardless if they are being born into a single parent home or not.


help the nation? how? by getting pregant in wedlock again?


and no, you cant choose your sexuality. just like you cant choose your gender. but males go with females, and females go with males. anything else, IMO and many others, is unnatural and WRONG.

[Raine]

Originally Posted by oojay

if theyre single parents with drug problems then they shouldnt have gotten pregnant in the first place. but dont kill the baby just b/c the mother is an idiot. put it up for adoption. and baby's will be born witj defects reguardless if they are being born into a single parent home or not.


help the nation? how? by getting pregant in wedlock again?


and no, you cant choose your sexuality. just like you cant choose your gender. but males go with females, and females go with males. anything else, IMO and many others, is unnatural and WRONG.

Narrow minded conservative republicans.

The chances of a child being born with defects when the mother has substance abuse problems increase significantly depending on the substance.
No one wants to adopt a child with defetcs. Most peoepl that would like to adopt such a child don't have the means to take care of such a child.

What happens if a woman happens to be a junkie, because her inhibitions were lowered while she was under th einfluence, she was raped, and thend oesn't want to have the baby? then what? Are you going to tell her that there's a chance her baby might die, and that if she doens't want the baby she can give it for a doption? Who the hell would want a child like that? nobody.
The fact government can't provide everything for this child. At the rate the country is going, you and I might not even be able to have social security after we retire. you wanna burden the government with a nothe rmouth to feed? You need a reailty check.

I don't care whether being *** is wrong or not. The fact is, I certainly don't have the time to try and stop two people from doing whatever because of their sexual preference. And quite frankly I don't care.if I'm not in the room it doesn't involve me. You should adopt my approach to these sorts of things.

[sleepy jack]

I'm all for abortion if the girls pregnant because of rape, however I think if you have sex you should live with what you did even if it means putting the kid up for adoption.

Also, i'm all for *** marriage. It doesn't matter if they can't have kids, they can just adopt the kid that is put up in adoption in the above paragraph.