The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (track, quote, Gender, Hang)

[TheBig3]

What about them? Did you know their one chromasome off from a human?

[holdfasthope]

Originally Posted by Fal

Errr.... fossils are pretty solid right? Carbon 14 dating, along with other radioactive dating, is also incredibly accurate and incredibly proven.

umm, what?
CHALLENGE: To research the flaws in Carbon 14 dating
WHY: To show you are incorrent in the above stated comment
WHEN: When ever you feel like it.
HOW: I guess just use your ol' noodle and the internet
WHY DONT I JUST DO IT AND POST IT HERE: Cause that would be too easy, and i would like to see you research things before you state them as fact.

[Barnard17]

You mean that specifically carbon 14 dating doesn't have enough of a half life to accurately go back that far? Scientists know this. That's why they use other other unstable elements to accurately get a measure, carbon 14 is simply the most well known.

[holdfasthope]

Originally Posted by Fal

You mean that specifically carbon 14 dating doesn't have enough of a half life to accurately go back that far? Scientists know this. That's why they use other other unstable elements to accurately get a measure, carbon 14 is simply the most well known.

what are these unstable elements you speak of?

[Barnard17]

http://science.howstuffworks.com/carbon-142.htm

Because the half-life of carbon-14 is 5,700 years, it is only reliable for dating objects up to about 60,000 years old. However, the principle of carbon-14 dating applies to other isotopes as well. Potassium-40 is another radioactive element naturally found in your body and has a half-life of 1.3 billion years. Other useful radioisotopes for radioactive dating include Uranium -235 (half-life = 704 million years), Uranium -238 (half-life = 4.5 billion years), Thorium-232 (half-life = 14 billion years) and Rubidium-87 (half-life = 49 billion years).

[riseagainstrocks]

I truly wish I was around for this...I hate exams.

My thoughts:

God created man, the earth, etc.

and said go.

we grew on our own.

[littleknowitall]

Originally Posted by Juggalo4life88

Evolutionists brains are too small to comprehend the Father and his power to give life and to take it. He created this entire realm we call our universe. But bigots hide behind their lies to make themselves seem better than everyone else. I'm not the one that has to deal with God's wrath. I'll be sittin' there laughin' at all the bigots when they're being sent away from him, just like I'm laughin' at you evolutionist freaks right now. Nothing you can say will cahnge my faith and just makes me wonder about your comprehension of what I'm saying. All you keep doing is asking the same crap and bringing up the same stuff to be shot down. I'm gonna let you ladies take this because I can have a more intelligent conversation with a 2yr old child than with a buch of bigots. Peace out. have fun repeating yourselves children.

you know, i've got nothing against christians or believers in God, alot of my friends are devout christians who love God and are truly complacent loving God but see they don't refer to me as a 'child' for not jumping on the band wagon....it just makes you look like a **** when you do.

[swim]

Evolution answers way more questions than creatism does. I've never believed in God. Not even as a little kid. When I ask why or how "just because" doesn't really suffice and, in Christianity that's the answer a lot of the time. It's far to open ended for my liking. Also, people believe what comforts them. I can how it can be comforting that something made us and is watching over us but, for me that thought is very disturbing. I don't want to think that anything could have ever wanted things to turn out the way they have.

[The Ten Thousandth Fist]

I'm a creationist, and a Christian, but I have just this to say to you, Juggalo.

Give. It. A. Rest.

You seem to be a pretty devout Christian, amirite? Then tell me, please, your justification of calling these others bigots. They're just exercising their free will. Even God doesn't mess with free will, we know this well enough. Let people believe what they choose. We may not like what they believe, but it is imperative that you be tolerant of others' views. It's just a fact of life. People will have different beliefs because we have the ability to form unique opinions. And that is that. So shut your trap, stop the hypocrisy, and let people believe what they want.

On another note, evolution is taught in schools and creationism isn't (for the most part) because of the mandate of the separation of church and state. It isn't open bigotry by the individual school systems. It's federal law. Don't ask me why. While it may not be a valid scientific theory, it is a theory as to how the universe came about. And I think that theories, whatever their basis, should be considered for what they are. As theories. Theories, technically, are not proven fact, but that doesn't mean we can't assume them to be so. Except when multiple theories are proposed for a single phenomenon (i.e., the creation of Earth and the creatures on it), it comes down to a person's individual beliefs. So again, Juggalo, put a sock in it.

But being an open-minded individual, I do consider what others think. And what riseagainstrocks said does make sense. God easily could have created us all... man, other animals, the universe... and said, "Have at it." He knew we could adapt. He knew things would change, and He knew that we could change with them. And that, in essence, is evolution.

So yeah, evolution does take place. I'm not denying that. I just know that God created us in the first place. We're too complex... everything is too complex... to just have happened by chance.

[Rabid Sea Turtles]

^
Agreed.