The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (single, member, quote, 2004)

[Merkaba]

Originally Posted by ZeppelinAir

how did the first being come to be, he had to be created, evolution doesnt say were it came from.

95% of evolution is about how we came to be.

[mosesandtherubberducky]

Originally Posted by Juggalo4life88

Stupid if you ask me. Christianity is all that's true........END OF STORY!

*shadowsurfer moment* Prove it

[Barnard17]

Originally Posted by ZeppelinAir

we are not the same person, and evolution just doesnt make sence to me, too many missing pieces, creation tells you exactly how things were made

This is, perhaps, the most moronic reasoning I've ever heard. Evolution has missing pieces because it works on evidence, it searches for evidence to fill the holes or, in cases where evidence is conflicting, it adapts it's theory to be more truthful. Creation tells you how things were made because, based purely on a book, it can wholly ignore evidence and just about everything else and give you a pre-scripted and factually baseless account.

Who would you rather do brain surgery? Somebody who has researched the human brain by dissecting it but admits they have much to learn, or someone who hasn't seen the insides of a head and just sat down and written a book about it but claims to know everything?

[ZeppelinAir]

95% were is the other 5%, the thing we all evolved from were did that come from.

[tdoc210]

Originally Posted by ZeppelinAir

how did the first being come to be, he had to be created, evolution doesnt say were it came from.

maybe.. let me think....


heat, pressure..they msot likely formed arounf under sea volcanoes..its quite complex..you miniscule brain could not handle it

[Barnard17]

Originally Posted by ZeppelinAir

how did the first being come to be, he had to be created, evolution doesnt say were it came from.

Originally Posted by Fal

Scientists have pretty strong evidence to suggest that, during the formation of the Earth, conditions were ideal to form simple proteins, and for these proteins to bind to form DNA and single cell organisms (as far as I know, they're been able to replicate the creation of proteins out of thin air). Single cell organisms, like amoeba, can live in the most extreme conditions and you'll commonly find them living near underwater volcanoes. Naturally, cells experience random mutations as genetic strains are corrupted or form differently. Sometimes this leads to a stronger life form, which survives. Speed this up a few million years and we're crawling out the water on our bellies. Speed it up a few more million and we're monkeys building huts.

Shit.


Not to mention that, asking an evolutionary scientist to explain the random formation of proteins and life is similar to asking a gynecologist to perform open heart surgery. They don't study similar areas, they don't try to and they don't claim to.

[mosesandtherubberducky]

Originally Posted by Fal

Shit.


Not to mention that, asking an evolutionary scientist to explain the random formation of proteins and life is similar to asking a gynecologist to perform open heart surgery. They don't study similar areas, they don't try to and they don't claim to.

Although the odds for the molecules to line up to form the proteins to make an ameba are so great it is considered impossible.

[Merkaba]

Originally Posted by ZeppelinAir

95% were is the other 5%, the thing we all evolved from were did that come from.

The truth in it's entirety doesn't magically fall out of thin air. This is what science is for, slowly discovering new evidence. Like a Jigsaw Puzzle, we're almost there.

How far away is religion from proving the entire truth?

[bungalow]

Originally Posted by mosesandtherubberducky

Although the odds for the molecules to line up to form the proteins to make an ameba are so great it is considered impossible.

By who?
That is actually the commonly accepted scientific explanation for the first organism. The only person who would call it impossible is a Christian Zealot.

[Barnard17]

Originally Posted by mosesandtherubberducky

Although the odds for the molecules to line up to form the proteins to make an ameba are so great it is considered impossible.

It still has an odds though. It'll take a lot of tries but they had millions of years floating about within which to do it, it's only inevitable that it happens at some point. Unless you mean for the purposes of the scientists reproducing an amoeba?