The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (shows, quote, 2006, Ching)

[Yellow Card]

^ i dont think that the american public needed to be reminded of it. although it is very important, there is a time and a place to talk about such matters. that speech was neither.

Originally Posted by IamAlejo

Please...did you read it at all? Did you watch it all? I'm guessing no to both, but maybe you read a paragraph or so and then your brain started to hurt again.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[IamAlejo]

Originally Posted by jibber

^ hahaha, perfect response to a rediculous post. On another note, I know the pro/anti bush topics have been beaten to death a million times over already, but I'm genuinely concerned about what his next move is going to be. Iran, North Korea, and Syria have all been targeted already, and american spies are already stationed in Iran. There's barely enough troops in Iraq, if Bush decides to invade another country under the guise of "giving them freedom", I shudder to think of what means he'll go through to provide not only the economic resources, but also the troops needed. Aside from all that, because he's not eligible to run for presidency in the next election, he's ultimately not responsible to the american public. So he's got a free run to do anything he wants, as long as he stops just short of anything that will get him impeached. He started a war in his last term of office, and that was when he had to think about re-election.

Here's an article I found about the situation as is stands in Iran:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/...ran/index.html

I hope there isn't a next move, but I'm sure that they are genuinely concerned with Iran, mainly because if they ever do get things going in Iraq, they don't want Iran to mess things up. Bush KNOWS he messed up in Iraq, not by invading, but with the way he has handled it while there. I think he knows that not only will he not be supported by a great deal of the public, but also the military will not support this move. I think/hope he plays its smart for a little while, and keeps the troops in Iraq, lets the troops have a more strict order of ruling in order to have a sense of discipline there, and I believe things will start working out better. I truly don't see the Govn't going anywhere else until the Iraq "crisis" is seen as more of a success to the general public.

[Waynegrow]

BUSH/HITLER SIMILARITIES!!!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[franscar]

Fran's thoughts: His speech writers need to buy a thesaurus. Too much freedom.

[IamAlejo]

Alejo's Thought: They were trying to emphasize "freedom"....but could be wrong.

[franscar]

Originally Posted by IamAlejo

Alejo's Thought: They were trying to emphasize "freedom"....but could be wrong.

Fran's second thought having re-read it: How come he never says Iraq once? Isn't the death of over a thousand American soldiers slightly important to the next four years?

The whole farce from over here looks like he's living in a fantasy world, he's enjoying lavish, million dollar balls whilst on the streets of Baghdad American soldiers are scraping the remains of suicide bombers into garbage bags.

Certainly Bush is attempting to emphasise freedom, but wouldn't it be a good idea to actually focus on the most important issue in the American world, nay, the whole world, right now?

[IamAlejo]

Originally Posted by franscar

Fran's second thought having re-read it: How come he never says Iraq once? Isn't the death of over a thousand American soldiers slightly important to the next four years?

The whole farce from over here looks like he's living in a fantasy world, he's enjoying lavish, million dollar balls whilst on the streets of Baghdad American soldiers are scraping the remains of suicide bombers into garbage bags.

Certainly Bush is attempting to emphasise freedom, but wouldn't it be a good idea to actually focus on the most important issue in the American world, nay, the whole world, right now?

Alejo's reply to Fran's though: (I like the 3rd person speaking haha) I think that he didn't mention Iraq for a variety of reasons.
1. He knows he's messed up already in the handlings of it.
2. He was at a mid-hostile crowd and the mentioning of Iraq could not have been great.
3. Balls have been done for a while, it's just kind of a way of congratulating (or at least giving them a break) of the normal daily decisions/work that they normally make.

[Henrah]

Bush is the most dangerously imcompitent man since stalin

[ArtistInTheAmbulance]

Originally Posted by Henrah

Bush is the most dangerously imcompitent man since stalin

Stalin wasnt incompitent (sorry if I cant spell) He did a lot for Russia, just because his methods were dangerous and killed many doesnt mean he was incompitent.

[franscar]

Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance

Stalin wasnt incompitent (sorry if I cant spell) He did a lot for Russia, just because his methods were dangerous and killed many doesnt mean he was incompitent.

In a military sense he was woeful. With the sheer size of the Russian army they should've been able to crush everything in sight, as it was they barely managed to win a war against Finland.

He was cruel, oppressive, insecure and daft as a brush. Nobody in Russia was sorry to see the back of him.