Hunting (house, Genesis, quote)

sleepy jack · 07-21-2006, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Raine

Not every endangered specie is endangered ebcause of humans. The one point I was trying to make.

I never said all.

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Originally Posted by Raine

Isolated season to my knowledge, so few people had gone hunting that year that there were more deer than usual. And there were signs at this particular road indicating that deer may cross. But I hardly doubt we were prepared for the herds that did cross (emphasis on herds).

Once again, where at, and once again your making this story sound more fake. I really doubt there would be such a decrease in hunters that it became as out of control as you make it sound.

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Originally Posted by Raine

If I can kill it and eat it, I will kill it and eat it. The fact is I ened emat in my diet and if I were to say resort to cannibalism as a means to acquire meat (if encessary) we'd be debating about that as well. So let's agree to disagree.If I can kill it and eat it, I will kill it and eat it. The fact is I ened emat in my diet and if I were to say resort to cannibalism as a means to acquire meat (if encessary) we'd be debating about that as well. So let's agree to disagree.

k, sounds fine.

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Originally Posted by Raine

And take it from me, you don't need a gun to kill something. Sometimes you don't need any weapon. Just your bare hands. You'r be suprised what people will do out of desperation and or just for food.

Nah, try going up against a mountain lion, or a shark or a bear or a bull or a porcupine with just your bear hands and will see how long you last. Humans aren't superior in everything contrary to what they think.

Raine · 07-21-2006, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

Once again, where at, and once again your making this story sound more fake. I really doubt there would be such a decrease in hunters that it became as out of control as you make it sound.

It was abuot two years ago adn there maybe 9 -13 incidents where a relatively large number of deer had crossed the road in the middle of the night just a little after rush hour. In one article a woman had said it was a large herd that attacked her car.
I know for a fact they didn't attack her car, nor would they but the amount of blood on her car supported the belief that she hit at least two deer. We already kenw she killed one. It was on the road.
Several other deer had been run over as well.

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

Nah, try going up against a mountain lion, or a shark or a bear or a bull or a porcupine with just your bear hands and will see how long you last. Humans aren't superior in everything contrary to what they think.

Back in japan, i used to fish for shark. You could probably pull a bay shark out of the water wiht your bare hands if you were fast enough. The younger they are the stupider they are.
And I have no desire to kill bears.
If you've ever gone camping out in PA, you see them all the time. Just don't provoke them and you won't be in danger. However, I'm not known for my common sense and Iw kill anything for food, specifically for my food. But no, I've never had to kill a bear or protect myself from a bear.
And why the hell would I want to hurt a porcupine? Bulls are different. I'll agree that they are used, granted I've seen bull riders and such but come on. That's just wrong. I'd rather just shoot em. Give them more dignity in death.
And I was referring to owls, snakes, and other birds. You don't enceessarily need a gun. Just good hand eye coordination and speed.
Although I highly recommend you never try to kill an owl without a weapon.

sleepy jack · 07-21-2006, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Raine

It was abuot two years ago adn there maybe 9 -13 incidents where a relatively large number of deer had crossed the road in the middle of the night just a little after rush hour. In one article a woman had said it was a large herd that attacked her car.
I know for a fact they didn't attack her car, nor would they but the amount of blood on her car supported the belief that she hit at least two deer. We already kenw she killed one. It was on the road.
Several other deer had been run over as well.

Your avoiding the question. Where was this at.

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Originally Posted by Raine

Back in japan, i used to fish for shark. You could probably pull a bay shark out of the water wiht your bare hands if you were fast enough. The younger they are the stupider they are.
And I have no desire to kill bears.
If you've ever gone camping out in PA, you see them all the time. Just don't provoke them and you won't be in danger. However, I'm not known for my common sense and Iw kill anything for food, specifically for my food. But no, I've never had to kill a bear or protect myself from a bear.
And why the hell would I want to hurt a porcupine? Bulls are different. I'll agree that they are used, granted I've seen bull riders and such but come on. That's just wrong. I'd rather just shoot em. Give them more dignity in death.
And I was referring to owls, snakes, and other birds. You don't enceessarily need a gun. Just good hand eye coordination and speed.
Although I highly recommend you never try to kill an owl without a weapon.

Okay, you've proven my point. Humans aren't superior to everything.

TrampInaTux · 07-21-2006, 04:12 AM

I voted Yes, but only because of the sports thing. If there would have been 2 seperate polls, one for do you think hunting is wrong for food? and Do you think hunting is wrong for sport? I would have voted No for the first one and Yes for the second.

But I think that hunting for sport is the cruellest thing imaginable, so I had to vote Yes.

dog · 07-21-2006, 06:00 AM

meh call me an idiot, but i like animals more than humans. i tend to put them above humans.

hunting is wrong. i hate blood sports, when those guys with a pack of dogs chase a fox and watch the dogs rip it to shreds. as ricky gervais said, (paraphrasing) "something in their psychology makes them want to watch an innocent living thing die a horrible bloody death, they enjoy that. they would like it if it was a robot."

outranking?? are we still talking about a living, feeling thing here? jesus.

i have no respect for people who take part in or condone hunting.
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I don't know about that. I think there's something in the water cause I've been seeing some rather tough pigeons lately, and seagulls miles off from a shore or any body of water.
If anything a lot of animals are becomg less domesticated and more violent. The day I shoot a pigeon and still makes an attempt to flap its wings, something is wrong.

yep.. im not even gonna comment on that

bruise_violet · 07-21-2006, 07:12 AM

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You being vegetarian doesn't mean anything. It won't stop an owl from eating a guinea pig or me from eating a the owl (if necessary).

I hate it when people say stuff like this.

Also when they say that by not eating meat, we aren't stopping animals from being killed. I don't eat meat because I like animals so I don't really want to eat dead ones. Also the thought of parts of a dead body on a plate is revolting to me.

Twistershift · 07-21-2006, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

Nah, try going up against a mountain lion, or a shark or a bear or a bull or a porcupine with just your bear hands and will see how long you last. Humans aren't superior in everything contrary to what they think.

Actually, making tools is what sets us apart. We have bigger brains and can solve complex problems. That and art. Maybe superior is the wrong word here, how about advanced?

PS...If I had bear hands, I could at least take out that porcupine. :P

Raine · 07-21-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

Your avoiding the question. Where was this at.

Sorry. I thought I said PA. Most occured out in the Pottstown area, at least 3 happened in Philly (Valley Forge and around the Belmont Area), And there the others happened on roads leading out to the Poconos from Philly.
So you have a better idea this is all on the Eastern side of the state.

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Okay, you've proven my point. Humans aren't superior to everything.

Which is also to say that if the animal is strong enough it'll survive, adn that you don't need a gun. Which is what I was trying to say.

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet

I hate it when people say stuff like this.

Also when they say that by not eating meat, we aren't stopping animals from being killed. I don't eat meat because I like animals so I don't really want to eat dead ones. Also the thought of parts of a dead body on a plate is revolting to me.

fact is a lot of extremist animal rights people use this as a reason for why they don't eat meat. I've met too many in my lifetime not to know. At any rate, I was overgeneralizing.

~~bungalow~~ · 07-21-2006, 12:59 PM

Crowquill did not make the last statement.

Raine · 07-21-2006, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

Crowquill did not make the last statement.

so you have your uses after all

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Yes	19	42.22%
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07-21-2006, 04:12 AM	#74 (permalink)
TrampInaTux that's my war face. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,418	I voted Yes, but only because of the sports thing. If there would have been 2 seperate polls, one for do you think hunting is wrong for food? and Do you think hunting is wrong for sport? I would have voted No for the first one and Yes for the second. But I think that hunting for sport is the cruellest thing imaginable, so I had to vote Yes.

07-21-2006, 12:59 PM	#79 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	Crowquill did not make the last statement.