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Trauma · 07-16-2006, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Raine

Long term use of Pot does not lead to addiction.

Checked your facts lately?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-16-2006, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Raine

Weed/pot whateevr you'd like to call it, has at least two health benefits and only two major side effects from what I know.
Smoking has no health benefits, helps shorten your life expectancy, and depending on the kind of medication you take (if any) it can be fatal.

Well when someones dying from lung cancer or emphesimia due to the increaced number of carcogens in pot smoke than cigarette smoke at least they can say they didn`t suffer from any muscle pains.

explosions-in-my-pants · 07-16-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

for christ sake....pot is no worse than beer...plus,it isn't addictive for crying out loud....i smoke pot recreationally and i'm not a lowlife....a prospecting lawyer in fact....

Pot is addictive for people with addictive personalities, and its stupid that you even said its not. Thats just like saying smoking isn't addictive.. Pot is even more addictive when you put tadbaco in it to make it 'less' harsh. But smoking a pure weed joint is just as bad smoking, its just as harsh to your body, but more harsher to your brain.

Raine · 07-16-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Snickers

Checked your facts lately?

What makes pot effective is the fact that ti contains THC. Since your body already naturally makes THC, long term use of pot increases THC levels to the point where you no longer want pot. Think of it as eating until your full and stopping because you're full

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Well when someones dying from lung cancer or emphesimia due to the increaced number of carcogens in pot smoke than cigarette smoke at least they can say they didn`t suffer from any muscle pains.

Emphysemia isn't a cancer, it's a heart disease. And judging by studies today, you can get cancer from just about anything.

adidasss · 07-16-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by explosions-in-my-pants

Pot is addictive for people with addictive personalities, and its stupid that you even said its not. Thats just like saying smoking isn't addictive.. Pot is even more addictive when you put tadbaco in it to make it 'less' harsh. But smoking a pure weed joint is just as bad smoking, its just as harsh to your body, but more harsher to your brain.

can you back this up or are you just pulling shit out'ya ass?

explosions-in-my-pants · 07-16-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Raine

What makes pot effective is the fact that ti contains THC. Since your body already naturally makes THC, long term use of pot increases THC levels to the point where you no longer want pot. Think of it as eating until your full and stopping because you're full

well that just made your theory go out the window.. I mean if you think you can compare one to the other its funny.. I mean then explain to me why they've been saying for the 7 years that food can be like and just as addictive as a drug? why are there so many fat people now?

3 years ago, for a couple of years I used to smoke pot/weed with TWO of my freinds a half 'q' a day.. and I'd keep a pinner for myself for the morning or afternoon hot box or whatever. I smoked weed every single day for liek 2 years and also smoked during this time aswell..

I quit smoking weed 3 years ago because I got into a relationship and I don't like to be stoned throughout important parts of my life... and because I have depression and weed just covers it, and doesn't fix it.. and I didn't want to get dependent on it... and one day my friends went to pass it to me and I said no and after that I didn't smoke it again till last summer when I started partying and drinking every friday and saturday night.

I have friends that would never ever beable to give up smoking weed, and some smoke it pure and others smoke it with tabaco, and yea I do believe that maybe its just the cigs in the weed there addicted too but then again maybe not. these friends have tried quiting and always end up going back to it time and time again

Raine · 07-16-2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by explosions-in-my-pants

Pot is addictive for people with addictive personalities, and its stupid that you even said its not. Thats just like saying smoking isn't addictive.. Pot is even more addictive when you put tadbaco in it to make it 'less' harsh. But smoking a pure weed joint is just as bad smoking, its just as harsh to your body, but more harsher to your brain.

Pot isn't supposed to be habit forming.
One of the things that I like about pot is that you do it long enough you start to get the munchies. Usually that'sthe signal a person gets to stop for a while (a while being any length of time no matter how short).
Putting tobacco in pot makes it as harmful as smoking.
The effects of pot on the brain (without tobacco) are short term.

And even if smoking wasn't addictive, it's still habit forming.

Missed this earlier.

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Originally Posted by Twistershift

Physical addiction. You can get addicted to anything.
Also, I'm sorry, but anything that makes a 2 pack a day smoker (my buddy the avid pot head)hack and cough like hes standing in a burning building cannot, IMO of course, be good for you.

I never said cigarette smoking was good for you.

adidasss · 07-16-2006, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by explosions-in-my-pants

well that just made your theory go out the window.. I mean if you think you can compare one to the other its funny.. I mean then explain to me why they've been saying for the 7 years that food can be like and just as addictive as a drug? why are there so many fat people now?

3 years ago, for a couple of years I used to smoke pot/weed with TWO of my freinds a half 'q' a day.. and I'd keep a pinner for myself for the morning or afternoon hot box or whatever. I smoked weed every single day for liek 2 years and also smoked during this time aswell..

I quit smoking weed 3 years ago because I got into a relationship and I don't like to be stoned throughout important parts of my life... and because I have depression and weed just covers it, and doesn't fix it.. and I didn't want to get dependent on it... and one day my friends went to pass it to me and I said no and after that I didn't smoke it again till last summer when I started partying and drinking every friday and saturday night.

I have friends that would never ever beable to give up smoking weed, and some smoke it pure and others smoke it with tabaco, and yea I do believe that maybe its just the cigs in the weed there addicted too but then again maybe not. these friends have tried quiting and always end up going back to it time and time again

i was talking about a physical addiction...something weed does not cause....psychological sure...

Raine · 07-16-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by explosions-in-my-pants

well that just made your theory go out the window.. I mean if you think you can compare one to the other its funny.. I mean then explain to me why they've been saying for the 7 years that food can be like and just as addictive as a drug? why are there so many fat people now?

3 years ago, for a couple of years I used to smoke pot/weed with TWO of my freinds a half 'q' a day.. and I'd keep a pinner for myself for the morning or afternoon hot box or whatever. I smoked weed every single day for liek 2 years and also smoked during this time aswell..

I quit smoking weed 3 years ago because I got into a relationship and I don't like to be stoned throughout important parts of my life... and because I have depression and weed just covers it, and doesn't fix it.. and I didn't want to get dependent on it... and one day my friends went to pass it to me and I said no and after that I didn't smoke it again till last summer when I started partying and drinking every friday and saturday night.

I have friends that would never ever beable to give up smoking weed, and some smoke it pure and others smoke it with tabaco, and yea I do believe that maybe its just the cigs in the weed there addicted too but then again maybe not. these friends have tried quiting and always end up going back to it time and time again

I never stated any of my theories. Just facts supported by scientific research.

I wasn't aware that for the past seven years people have been saying that food is addictive. And as for the reason why there are so manyf at people in the world: how about diet and exercise. If you over eat and hardly ever exercise you're gonna gain weight. If your food intake is greater than the amount of you fat and carb out put, you're gonna gain weight. If you eat a well balanced meal and and exercise, you're gonna be of an appropiate weight for your height.
And now to tackle the bigger issues of this topic. If you live in the US (the fat capital of the world) chances are you're obese because you eat at one of those fast food joints every day for just abut eevry meal. Or like some Americans, you're just lazy.
There aren't too many overweight Asians in the world (by choice) and the majority that are overweight are also smokers. Although this tends to be the case for most Japanese, and not necessarily all other Asians.

The only reason I bothered to respond to this is because you had at least one valid question. Otherwise I wouldn't have responded sicne you also stated that you are depressed. ANd in response to that alone, I could've disregarded your entire post and attributed your statements as bs because of your frame of mind. Next time you want to make a valid arguement you shouldn't say something like that unless it is to your advantage. In this case it wasn't.
And the fact is I said weed wasn't addictive and you proved my point by saying you stopped using when you met your boyfriend. If you really were addicted to pot you wouldn't have been able to quit.
The fact that you used to do it so often doesn't really mean anything. If I wanted I could say your use of pot can be attributed to your depression. You were depressed, possibly suicidal, you turned to drugs. You're not any different from too many other people in the world.

I don't know your friends so i could care elss about you less about your friends. If they want to quit, they can. If they like being stoned, that's great too, although the sex isn't quite the same, but hey whatever floats their boat.
Although the fact that they want to stop using weed but still do doesn't necessarily mean that they're addictive. Look at the situation you were in. Maybe they need the right incentive to stop. Most people turn to drugs because it satisfies something they crave in the real world that they just don't have. This is inlcuding but not limited to weed or cigarette smoking)
(This would be addiction, just not physical addiction)

explosions-in-my-pants · 07-16-2006, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Raine

I never stated any of my theories. Just facts supported by scientific research.

I wasn't aware that for the past seven years people have been saying that food is addictive. And as for the reason why there are so manyf at people in the world: how about diet and exercise. If you over eat and hardly ever exercise you're gonna gain weight. If your food intake is greater than the amount of you fat and carb out put, you're gonna gain weight. If you eat a well balanced meal and and exercise, you're gonna be of an appropiate weight for your height.
And now to tackle the bigger issues of this topic. If you live in the US (the fat capital of the world) chances are you're obese because you eat at one of those fast food joints every day for just abut eevry meal. Or like some Americans, you're just lazy.
There aren't too many overweight Asians in the world (by choice) and the majority that are overweight are also smokers. Although this tends to be the case for most Japanese, and not necessarily all other Asians.

The only reason I bothered to respond to this is because you had at least one valid question. Otherwise I wouldn't have responded sicne you also stated that you are depressed. ANd in response to that alone, I could've disregarded your entire post and attributed your statements as bs because of your frame of mind. Next time you want to make a valid arguement you shouldn't say something like that unless it is to your advantage. In this case it wasn't.
And the fact is I said weed wasn't addictive and you proved my point by saying you stopped using when you met your boyfriend. If you really were addicted to pot you wouldn't have been able to quit.
The fact that you used to do it so often doesn't really mean anything. If I wanted I could say your use of pot can be attributed to your depression. You were depressed, possibly suicidal, you turned to drugs. You're not any different from too many other people in the world.

I don't know your friends so i could care elss about you less about your friends. If they want to quit, they can. If they like being stoned, that's great too, although the sex isn't quite the same, but hey whatever floats their boat.
Although the fact that they want to stop using weed but still do doesn't necessarily mean that they're addictive. Look at the situation you were in. Maybe they need the right incentive to stop. Most people turn to drugs because it satisfies something they crave in the real world that they just don't have. This is inlcuding but not limited to weed or cigarette smoking)
(This would be addiction, just not physical addiction)

I personally smoked weed cause it was fun, I never quit smoking weed cause I got sa boyfriend and wasn't depressed anymore, I quit because I just like being myself around people I'd be that close to. My point in saying that I quit it easy was that I don't have a addictive personallity, and my friends do, they can't walk away from that or smoking, and some can't stop drinking.

weed is a downer drug, it normaly doesn't make anyone hyper or want to go for a jog or anything.. you could take a puff od weed and get the munchies or you can smoke 3 grams..