Drugged Up Kids (house, pop, single, American, French)

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-22-2006, 06:49 PM

OK this is kinda based on my response to Fal in the your day thread about kids being put on medication for all sorts of behavioral problems.

It seems to me virtually every teen I meet these days is on drugs for some problem or disorder they have and it makes me wonder why.

My own personal opinion of this is I think it`s a decline in standards myself. Physical activity in schools is at the lowest it ever has been , dicipline is virtually non existent , and kids gorge themselves on crap from McDonalds and other junk foods stuffed full of artificial addetives & presevatives....

And then they wonder why they have hyperactive kids running around causing havoc.

It seems to me nobody wants to take responsability.The teachers don`t give a sh*t they just want the easiest & quickest way to sort these kids out.The parents are too busy to cook proper meals or take them places where they can do physical activity , so they just let them rot in front of the TV/Computer/X box stuffing themselves with cheap convenience food.

And as for the kids themselves , well what do you think they`d rather do , eat carrots or cabbage or eat a big mac, play on a computer or run around a playing field for a couple of hours. I mean why go to all that effort when you can just pop a pill & impress your friends wearing your disorder like a badge to say how ****ed up you are.

A couple of years ago I was diagnosed with depression & given a perscription for anti-depressents. I ripped it up, the last thing I wanted was to be miserable AND an addict to something that wasn`t even a cure for it , but just something to make me feel better for a few hours.I decided to take responsability for myself ,ate proper meals , did regular excercise and slept properly.Within a couple months I felt like a new person and I don`t regret once ripping up that perscription.

I`m not saying this would work with everybody , but it does seem strange to me given the condition things are in at the moment and the way kids are turning out, I don`t really see how handing out pills to all & sundry does any good.

I would be interested to see what others think.

mosesandtherubberducky · 06-22-2006, 06:55 PM

I'd rather eat an actual cooked meal. They taste better. As for outdoor activity, I'm not a person to jump at the opurtunity but I'll take part in it if I'm not tired.

swim · 06-22-2006, 07:12 PM

In the 90s there were vaccines that had the presence of mercury and they put that into babies. That fucked us all up.

I do agree about your depression statement of depression. Again I'm not sure if it would work for everyone but I just changed tiny little things and now I'm happy all the time.

littleknowitall · 06-22-2006, 07:15 PM

It's just attention seeking if you ask me, my brother had a.d.h.d and my mother refused to put him on pills 'cause some scientists say it can give you drug addictions later on in life, 5 years down the line and he's learned to control his anger problems just fine.
pills are **** unless your using them for recriational purposes, mind you they're a bit naff under those circumstances...

Merkaba · 06-22-2006, 07:30 PM

1990 - If you told a kid to go do something he'd go outside and ride a bike.
2006 - If you told a kid to go do something he'd go to the lounge and turn the Playstation on.

The key reason for kids being fucked over on medication is they don't give their brain enough exercise. The mind becomes obese, too uninspired to focus.

Edit: Well, not all kids are ruined by medication, but the process of being put on medication is generally to the above.

Raine · 06-22-2006, 07:54 PM

I find hat all of this stuff seems to be the norm primarily for American society.

When I lived in Japan, there was nothing but physical activity to do. Even at school. I was surprised when I came to shcool in America. Half the time we spent in the locker rooms getting changed. In Japan we have a fitness test every four months. It lasted about a week. The test was designed for endurance more than how fast you were.

In the US, I have gym and my teacher is the size of a vending machine which I find to be outrageous.

And part of the reason kids might be so obese is ebcause of the food chains in America. I can't lie, I hate most American foods but Checker's french fries are freaking addictive and you have to eat like three of those ebfore you feel full. I one time ate a chicken sandwich meal at Checker's and half way through I felt my heart stop I think. And I still kept eating. Idon't know what you guys put in the food but whatever it is. . . .

But the major reason why so many youths today are put on medication is because of the many advancements in medicine and the fact that many nations depend heavily on the social aspects of psychology.
Psychologists are finding so many new ways to conquer so many problems faced today by kids. And I'll agree that somrtimes I think kids are given medication when they don't need it.
But before a kid is prescribed drugs, a doctor has to determine what is a serious mental health issue and what is the feeling of rejection that's causing someone to feel sick.
Whcih leads us back to the fact that a lot of young people today are taking medication because they're growing up to fast and getting themselves insituations they're just not ready for.
There are so many teen pregnancies, kids with stds, kids abusing illegal substances, underaged drinking, the pressures to fit in, and so much other stuff. It's a lot to handle. It's kinda sad really.
And part of the reason to all of this starts right at home. If your parents are around they can keep you from certain situations. But a lot of kids today coemf orm single parent homes, or their parents don't care, or they don't listen tot heir parents. And I am not for hitting your kids or anything like that but I'll tell you this: I never once defied my parents because I knew that if I did something really bad, depending on the situation they might be ticked and might break my neck. That and the only person that ever chastised me was my grandmom and she did it with a shen - hai (I think it's spelled that way).

Well that's my 2 cent

PS: I'll eat anything except beef, chocolate (in large quantites), raisins, and gritz. And I rarely eat pork. I eat about six - 8 meals a day. But I have a fast metabolism.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-22-2006, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raine

But the major reason why so many youths today are put on medication is because of the many advancements in medicine and the fact that many nations depend heavily on the social aspects of psychology.
Psychologists are finding so many new ways to conquer so many problems faced today by kids. And I'll agree that somrtimes I think kids are given medication when they don't need it.
But before a kid is prescribed drugs, a doctor has to determine what is a serious mental health issue and what is the feeling of rejection that's causing someone to feel sick.
Whcih leads us back to the fact that a lot of young people today are taking medication because they're growing up to fast and getting themselves insituations they're just not ready for.
There are so many teen pregnancies, kids with stds, kids abusing illegal substances, underaged drinking, the pressures to fit in, and so much other stuff. It's a lot to handle. It's kinda sad really.
And part of the reason to all of this starts right at home. If your parents are around they can keep you from certain situations. But a lot of kids today coemf orm single parent homes, or their parents don't care, or they don't listen tot heir parents. And I am not for hitting your kids or anything like that but I'll tell you this: I never once defied my parents because I knew that if I did something really bad, depending on the situation they might be ticked and might break my neck. That and the only person that ever chastised me was my grandmom and she did it with a shen - hai (I think it's spelled that way).

Well that's my 2 cent

But this advancement of medical science doesn`t actually cure anybody , most of the time they are just stimulants to change the behavior of that day. You may as well give hyperactive kids pot and depressed kids speed.

All that stuff you mentioned about drinking , stds , drugs etc etc , just goes to prove my point. If people took responsability for themselves they wouldn`t need these drugs in the first place.
Peer pressure has always been around , so has stress , so have single mothers it`s nothing new.I don`t think it`s any worse now to what it was 10/12 years ago when I was growning up.

gabbagabba_hey · 06-22-2006, 08:11 PM

im on anti-depressionants

and they dont do sh!t
i dont think im even depressed...and i dont need threapy...my moms just just tryin to find an easy way out of how messed up i am...........

i dont even think any meds work.....you just belive there working so you start acting better........
i agree with urban....just make yourself feel good again and it'll be alright...

Raine · 06-22-2006, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

But this advancement of medical science doesn`t actually cure anybody , most of the time they are just stimulants to change the behavior of that day. You may as well give hyperactive kids pot and depressed kids speed.

It's a tadmore complicated than that. There are so many different kinds off drugs. And the fact is some of these kids actually need meds.

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All that stuff you mentioned about drinking , stds , drugs etc etc , just goes to prove my point. If people took responsability for themselves they wouldn`t need these drugs in the first place.
Peer pressure has always been around , so has stress , so have single mothers it`s nothing new.I don`t think it`s any worse now to what it was 10/12 years ago when I was growning up.

I was specifically talking about teens acting this way.
And because this si teenagers we're talking about, science (not limited to psychology) has proven that the brain is not fully developed until you are about 25. Many laws are based on this fact. This why you're not supposed to drink until 21, because drinking earlier than that could slow down the growth of you frontal lobe (part of the brain responsible for reasoning) or could stop your frontal lobe from finishing its development entirely.
If a teen does drugs, sometimes it is poor judgement which can be caused by the fact that their frontal is under developed.
I don't know
As for single parent households. I'm sure they've been around since the dawn of time. But the fact is more and more are sprouting up every day. You can't tell me that it doesn't have an impact on the next generation or my generation even.

tdoc210 · 06-22-2006, 08:36 PM

mmm.....im stupid..but even when im sick i refuse to take medicine..or go to the doctors unless its serious..besides my immunity will be stronger..anyways i get depressed alot..but i do not beleive its a disease theres reasons for depression sheesh......mmmm these disease were not liek present until when the 70's 80s?

06-22-2006, 06:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Drugged Up Kids OK this is kinda based on my response to Fal in the your day thread about kids being put on medication for all sorts of behavioral problems. It seems to me virtually every teen I meet these days is on drugs for some problem or disorder they have and it makes me wonder why. My own personal opinion of this is I think it`s a decline in standards myself. Physical activity in schools is at the lowest it ever has been , dicipline is virtually non existent , and kids gorge themselves on crap from McDonalds and other junk foods stuffed full of artificial addetives & presevatives.... And then they wonder why they have hyperactive kids running around causing havoc. It seems to me nobody wants to take responsability.The teachers don`t give a sht they just want the easiest & quickest way to sort these kids out.The parents are too busy to cook proper meals or take them places where they can do physical activity , so they just let them rot in front of the TV/Computer/X box stuffing themselves with cheap convenience food. And as for the kids themselves , well what do you think they`d rather do , eat carrots or cabbage or eat a big mac, play on a computer or run around a playing field for a couple of hours. I mean why go to all that effort when you can just pop a pill & impress your friends wearing your disorder like a badge to say how *ed up you are. A couple of years ago I was diagnosed with depression & given a perscription for anti-depressents. I ripped it up, the last thing I wanted was to be miserable AND an addict to something that wasn`t even a cure for it , but just something to make me feel better for a few hours.I decided to take responsability for myself ,ate proper meals , did regular excercise and slept properly.Within a couple months I felt like a new person and I don`t regret once ripping up that perscription. I`m not saying this would work with everybody , but it does seem strange to me given the condition things are in at the moment and the way kids are turning out, I don`t really see how handing out pills to all & sundry does any good. I would be interested to see what others think. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.**

06-22-2006, 06:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
mosesandtherubberducky butt say x Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: so i read the question as "Where YOU live" which was kinda funny instead of "Where you live" Posts: 1,649	I'd rather eat an actual cooked meal. They taste better. As for outdoor activity, I'm not a person to jump at the opurtunity but I'll take part in it if I'm not tired. __________________ Can I have a youtube video for a sig? There's a thing that says "Wrap [YOUTUBE] tags around selected text"

06-22-2006, 07:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	In the 90s there were vaccines that had the presence of mercury and they put that into babies. That fucked us all up. I do agree about your depression statement of depression. Again I'm not sure if it would work for everyone but I just changed tiny little things and now I'm happy all the time. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

06-22-2006, 07:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,885	1990 - If you told a kid to go do something he'd go outside and ride a bike. 2006 - If you told a kid to go do something he'd go to the lounge and turn the Playstation on. The key reason for kids being fucked over on medication is they don't give their brain enough exercise. The mind becomes obese, too uninspired to focus. Edit: Well, not all kids are ruined by medication, but the process of being put on medication is generally to the above. __________________ She thinks I'm a reclusive genius, she's going to be very disappointed when she finds out i'm a reclusive wanker

06-22-2006, 07:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
Raine Full-Time Hellion Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: PA Posts: 1,531	I find hat all of this stuff seems to be the norm primarily for American society. When I lived in Japan, there was nothing but physical activity to do. Even at school. I was surprised when I came to shcool in America. Half the time we spent in the locker rooms getting changed. In Japan we have a fitness test every four months. It lasted about a week. The test was designed for endurance more than how fast you were. In the US, I have gym and my teacher is the size of a vending machine which I find to be outrageous. And part of the reason kids might be so obese is ebcause of the food chains in America. I can't lie, I hate most American foods but Checker's french fries are freaking addictive and you have to eat like three of those ebfore you feel full. I one time ate a chicken sandwich meal at Checker's and half way through I felt my heart stop I think. And I still kept eating. Idon't know what you guys put in the food but whatever it is. . . . But the major reason why so many youths today are put on medication is because of the many advancements in medicine and the fact that many nations depend heavily on the social aspects of psychology. Psychologists are finding so many new ways to conquer so many problems faced today by kids. And I'll agree that somrtimes I think kids are given medication when they don't need it. But before a kid is prescribed drugs, a doctor has to determine what is a serious mental health issue and what is the feeling of rejection that's causing someone to feel sick. Whcih leads us back to the fact that a lot of young people today are taking medication because they're growing up to fast and getting themselves insituations they're just not ready for. There are so many teen pregnancies, kids with stds, kids abusing illegal substances, underaged drinking, the pressures to fit in, and so much other stuff. It's a lot to handle. It's kinda sad really. And part of the reason to all of this starts right at home. If your parents are around they can keep you from certain situations. But a lot of kids today coemf orm single parent homes, or their parents don't care, or they don't listen tot heir parents. And I am not for hitting your kids or anything like that but I'll tell you this: I never once defied my parents because I knew that if I did something really bad, depending on the situation they might be ticked and might break my neck. That and the only person that ever chastised me was my grandmom and she did it with a shen - hai (I think it's spelled that way). Well that's my 2 cent PS: I'll eat anything except beef, chocolate (in large quantites), raisins, and gritz. And I rarely eat pork. I eat about six - 8 meals a day. But I have a fast metabolism. __________________ A pair of powerful spectacles has sometimes sufficed to cure a person in love. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

06-22-2006, 07:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
littleknowitall Pow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,671	It's just attention seeking if you ask me, my brother had a.d.h.d and my mother refused to put him on pills 'cause some scientists say it can give you drug addictions later on in life, 5 years down the line and he's learned to control his anger problems just fine. pills are **** unless your using them for recriational purposes, mind you they're a bit naff under those circumstances...

06-22-2006, 08:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
gabbagabba_hey Dont Get Raped In Cancun Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: land of treason Posts: 193	im on anti-depressionants and they dont do sh!t i dont think im even depressed...and i dont need threapy...my moms just just tryin to find an easy way out of how messed up i am........... i dont even think any meds work.....you just belive there working so you start acting better........ i agree with urban....just make yourself feel good again and it'll be alright... __________________ go on out get some more go on out to the bar the market or the liquor store friends dont let friends get lost in chinatown

06-22-2006, 08:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	mmm.....im stupid..but even when im sick i refuse to take medicine..or go to the doctors unless its serious..besides my immunity will be stronger..anyways i get depressed alot..but i do not beleive its a disease theres reasons for depression sheesh......mmmm these disease were not liek present until when the 70's 80s? __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.