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Cheese 06-15-2006 02:51 AM

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This is more my style. Fins and chrome.

Alas I have just let her go.:(

ZeppelinAir 07-01-2006 08:25 PM

what was it, nothing i ever seen before

Juggalo4life88 07-01-2006 08:31 PM

Has anyone in hee ever heard or studied the 1940's breakthrough in carburators? It had 100 mpg capabilities, and was used in WWII. Then it's blueprints were sold to a company who then destroyed them,(most likely an oil company). I just wanted to know if anyone here knows info about them that I would be interested in knowing. I know that thee are some guys trying to rebuild them and perfect them now. Could you imagine driving a 69' Chevy Camaro with a 350 in it and burning only a fraction of what the new cars use in fuel consumption? It would be on my list of must haves for my 79' Camaro.

mosesandtherubberducky 07-01-2006 08:33 PM

My dad's car gets 45 MPG.

ZeppelinAir 07-01-2006 08:37 PM

really what is it?

Juggalo4life88 07-01-2006 08:40 PM

Is it a true muscle, because I'm talking about carbs, not fuel injection. There's a difference. 45 mpg is good, but the carb I'm studying is more than twice that in mileage. Someone complained earlier in this thread that muscle cars deplete the natural resources, but we had the chance to make them more efficient than what they are now, but thanks to a money hungry oil slick, we now have no original blueprints and have to start over and try to get it back. So if the enviromentalists want to conserve fuel, they need to help produce this carb.That's all I have to say about that.

mosesandtherubberducky 07-01-2006 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeppelinAir
really what is it?


I can't remember then name nor how to spell it but they company was only around for 3 years and produced it and two other models then was bought out by GMC because their cars were far more economical than the competition. LOL now you can buy the motors from Kawazaki (can't spell that for poo)

MURDER JUNKIE 07-02-2006 04:47 AM

Daiwoo????

Cheese 07-04-2006 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeppelinAir
what was it, nothing i ever seen before

1958 Vauxhall Velox.............English.

mosesandtherubberducky 07-04-2006 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE
Daiwoo????



Nah it's older than those. I think it's Daihatsu don't hold me to the spelling of it though.

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe 07-04-2006 11:38 PM

^Actually, I'm pretty sure you're right on the spelling.

My nextdoor neighbor has one of these:

http://www.monchar.com/images/member...7465_13875.jpg
except its primer grey

ZeppelinAir 07-05-2006 12:15 AM

its a ford mustang, if i remeber correctly there top speed(stock)was around 80 or 85, and around were im at, just about every idiot owns one, so they are nothing special to me

Cheese 07-05-2006 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe
^Actually, I'm pretty sure you're right on the spelling.

My nextdoor neighbor has one of these:

http://www.monchar.com/images/member...7465_13875.jpg
except its primer grey

That is truly, without doubt, the ugliest Mustang Ford ever built.

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe 07-05-2006 02:25 PM

^But with a 5.0 liter V8......they can certainly haul ass.

Juggalo4life88 07-05-2006 03:09 PM

not as well as a Camaro, try the ass haulin of a Camaro. Besides, Ford is "Built Ford Soft". GM all the way.(Just my opinion.) Oh and my Cavalier is that color with the stripes white too, only Ford should have to give up that paint job, it shouldn't be on a Ford. That was a 69' Chevy Camaro paint scheme, that's why I had my Cav painted like that, but it shouldn't be on anything like that. My strong opinion again. Never did like Mustangs, slow and all the same.

ZeppelinAir 07-05-2006 10:24 PM

in my opinion, all mustangs(except the 70, 71, 72 mach 1' 2' 3s,) the rest i dont like

neorocks100 05-18-2011 03:21 PM

looking to buy ..
 
i am looking to buy my first muscle car.. yes i like all of the classics.. can any of you point me to a good starter ? preferably with a v8. and i also prefere manuals though i know many are autos..

FRED HALE SR. 05-18-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Juggalo4life88 (Post 254991)
not as well as a Camaro, try the ass haulin of a Camaro. Besides, Ford is "Built Ford Soft". GM all the way.(Just my opinion.) Oh and my Cavalier is that color with the stripes white too, only Ford should have to give up that paint job, it shouldn't be on a Ford. That was a 69' Chevy Camaro paint scheme, that's why I had my Cav painted like that, but it shouldn't be on anything like that. My strong opinion again. Never did like Mustangs, slow and all the same.

Shelby Mustang :: Classic Mustang Sales & Restoration

You mean like the 1965 Shelby GT paint scheme, notice i said 1965. And you don't seem to know much about muscle cars if your claim is that a chevy camaro is top of the pop. the 71 Hemi Cuda would blow the doors off a 69 camaro of any style including the SS with a big block. Do some more research Parnelli Jones.

FRED HALE SR. 05-18-2011 03:58 PM

I'd even venture money on the 427 shelby Cobra which dominated tracks of every kind dating as late as 68. Also The Super Bee with a 440 six pack would dominate anything made by Chevy except for maybe the L7 package they later put in Chevelles.

Bloozcrooz 05-18-2011 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Juggalo4life88 (Post 254991)
not as well as a Camaro, try the ass haulin of a Camaro. Besides, Ford is "Built Ford Soft". GM all the way.(Just my opinion.) Oh and my Cavalier is that color with the stripes white too, only Ford should have to give up that paint job, it shouldn't be on a Ford. That was a 69' Chevy Camaro paint scheme, that's why I had my Cav painted like that, but it shouldn't be on anything like that. My strong opinion again. Never did like Mustangs, slow and all the same.


Lol...I stopped reading when he said his Cavalier has racing stripes on it.

FRED HALE SR. 05-18-2011 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1055476)
Lol...I stopped reading when he said his Cavalier has racing stripes on it.

Yeah i bet that 4 cylinder package with the 1.8 engine looks kick ass with the racing stripes. Bet he even has a fuzzy dice on the rear view mirror and the stick on Mary Magdalene on the dash to pray to before his street races with Ford Pintos.

Necromancer 05-18-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1055465)
Shelby Mustang :: Classic Mustang Sales & Restoration

You mean like the 1965 Shelby GT paint scheme, notice i said 1965. And you don't seem to know much about muscle cars if your claim is that a chevy camaro is top of the pop. the 71 Hemi Cuda would blow the doors off a 69 camaro of any style including the SS with a big block. Do some more research Parnelli Jones.

I just purchased a 1971 Dodge Dart, the front clip is off a Plymouth Swinger, it kinda makes the Dart unique and gives the front end a Cuda look. Although it does blow the hell out of originality.
One of my other favorite Mopar's that Ive owned through the years, is a '72 Dodge Demon (340).
My personal favorite along with Mopar's has always been Pontiac. Owned a few nice Firebird's and Trans Am's with the 400s. Had a 1970 or '71 Le Mans with an Olds 455 once, it was hard to keep it from jumping off the road on take off sometimes, lol..
Ive yet to own a Pontiac GTO, (Would love to own a '67 Goat)!

FRED HALE SR. 05-18-2011 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by VocalsBass (Post 1055482)
I just purchased a 1971 Dodge Dart, the front clip is off a Plymouth Swinger, it kinda makes the Dart unique and gives the front end a Cuda look. Although it does blow the hell out of originality.
One of my other favorite Mopar's that Ive owned through the years, is a '72 Dodge Demon (340).
My personal favorite along with Mopar's has always been Pontiac. Owned a few nice Firebird's and Trans Am's with the 400s. Had a 1970 or '71 Le Mans with an Olds 455 once, it was hard to keep it from jumping off the road on take off sometimes, lol..
Ive yet to own a Pontiac GTO, (Would love to own a '67 Goat)!

I've only owned classic fords. Currently have a 65 gt fastback. Owned a 67 fastback and sold it. First car was a 72 Plymouth Valiant, had incredible back seat space. LOL Also at one point had a 1958 T-bird in my backyard collecting dust. Sold it to a girl up the road who restored it to new and still to this day drives it. I never understood talking down about one classic to another. I'm a fan of chevy, gmc, ford and all of Mopar. There are just so many desirable cars on every level. The OLDS 455 was a bulletproof block i can appreciate that. The Dodge Demon doesn't get alot of love but they were rather nice cars and had some really nice body lines i can also appreciate.

Necromancer 05-18-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1055484)
I've only owned classic fords. Currently have a 65 gt fastback. Owned a 67 fastback and sold it. First car was a 72 Plymouth Valiant, had incredible back seat space. LOL Also at one point had a 1958 T-bird in my backyard collecting dust. Sold it to a girl up the road who restored it to new and still to this day drives it. I never understood talking down about one classic to another. I'm a fan of chevy, gmc, ford and all of Mopar. There are just so many desirable cars on every level. The OLDS 455 was a bulletproof block i can appreciate that. The Dodge Demon doesn't get alot of love but they were rather nice cars and had some really nice body lines i can also appreciate.

The '58 T-Bird sounds awesome, yeah the Dart/Valiant, basically the same body style does have a large back seat & trunk area, along with a large gas TANK!
I was never a big fan of the Demon & Duster's ass ends, to be honest. Always liked the front clip on the Demon & Dart's though. Ive had a couple of '72 Satellite's, a lot like the Road Runner's body style of that particular year. I also like GM & Ford muscle cars.;)

Bloozcrooz 05-18-2011 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1055480)
Yeah i bet that 4 cylinder package with the 1.8 engine looks kick ass with the racing stripes. Bet he even has a fuzzy dice on the rear view mirror and the stick on Mary Magdalene on the dash to pray to before his street races with Ford Pintos.

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Originally Posted by VocalsBass (Post 1055482)
I just purchased a 1971 Dodge Dart, the front clip is off a Plymouth Swinger, it kinda makes the Dart unique and gives the front end a Cuda look. Although it does blow the hell out of originality.
One of my other favorite Mopar's that Ive owned through the years, is a '72 Dodge Demon (340).
My personal favorite along with Mopar's has always been Pontiac. Owned a few nice Firebird's and Trans Am's with the 400s. Had a 1970 or '71 Le Mans with an Olds 455 once, it was hard to keep it from jumping off the road on take off sometimes, lol..
Ive yet to own a Pontiac GTO, (Would love to own a '67 Goat)!

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1055484)
I've only owned classic fords. Currently have a 65 gt fastback. Owned a 67 fastback and sold it. First car was a 72 Plymouth Valiant, had incredible back seat space. LOL Also at one point had a 1958 T-bird in my backyard collecting dust. Sold it to a girl up the road who restored it to new and still to this day drives it. I never understood talking down about one classic to another. I'm a fan of chevy, gmc, ford and all of Mopar. There are just so many desirable cars on every level. The OLDS 455 was a bulletproof block i can appreciate that. The Dodge Demon doesn't get alot of love but they were rather nice cars and had some really nice body lines i can also appreciate.

Lol at the whole fuzzy dice hanging from the mirror comment. As far as the racing stripes that was the going joke at the 1/4 track was putting racing stripes on your ride took a couple secs off your time.

I use to get into the whole Chevy verses ford and all that. After some time though ive just come to love all american muscle has to offer. I hate the biatch rice burner cars that kids fix up now. They remind me of a hummingbird cirlcing a bird feeder or something. Theres nothing even remotley intimidating about their looks or sound. Idgaf if their running 9's in the 1/4 mile their retarded. Regretfully enough I am guilty of having one of these decals on the back glass of an ol chevy hot rod truck I use to have.(high 13's in the 1/4)...which is awesome for a truck thats not tubbed out. At the end where the piss would be landing I had them put the words "Um All" to indicate piss on um all. As opposed to the typical ford,chevy,dodge,etc. Funny enough though whenever stock mustangs or cameros would hop me on the street or rev the motor at a light. It was inevitable that they were going to get a good look at the image on my back glass and then watch it fadin the distance.
Oh btw this is what it had. 350 small block. added hooker headers,3 1/2 flowmaster exaust straight off the headers with two two chamber mufflers..,355 ratio gears (rear end) accel plugs wires with msd ignition, K&n air filter with Edlebrock dish on top of a Holley pro jection (which replaced throttle body injection) bumped my timing up 4 degress or so. Put a performance pulley set on..im a little vague as what brand they were now its been so long. Thats about it as far as the bolt ons on the truck. That thing would fly though for a truck. Then some 295/50 low profile Bf Goodwrench comp ta's on some Weld Draglite wheels to insure traction.
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...ing20decal.gif

FRED HALE SR. 05-18-2011 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VocalsBass (Post 1055499)
The '58 T-Bird sounds awesome, yeah the Dart/Valiant, basically the same body style does have a large back seat & trunk area, along with a large gas TANK!
I was never a big fan of the Demon & Duster's ass ends, to be honest. Always liked the front clip on the Demon & Dart's though. Ive had a couple of '72 Satellite's, a lot like the Road Runner's body style of that particular year. I also like GM & Ford muscle cars.;)

Yeah very similar body style. Had the 318 in it which was adequate power for such a large car. Not the greatest but as an A-B car it was functional. Cost me 350 bucks running and with no rust damage and smogged so what can you do. True the rear ends weren't necessarily the greatest but overall the Demon is a really solid looking car. The 58 tbird was all there and i got it running before i sold it to the girl, so she got a good buy on it. Kind of has some nice classic lines on it and it had a 430 in it out of a 60 bird so it was probably more car then a teenager needed but she loves that car.

FRED HALE SR. 05-18-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1055506)
Lol at the whole fuzzy dice hanging from the mirror comment. As far as the racing stripes that was the going joke at the 1/4 track was putting racing stripes on your ride took a couple secs off your time.

I use to get into the whole Chevy verses ford and all that. After some time though ive just come to love all american muscle has to offer. I hate the biatch rice burner cars that kids fix up now. They remind me of a hummingbird cirlcing a bird feeder or something. Theres nothing even remotley intimidating about their looks or sound. Idgaf if their running 9's in the 1/4 mile their retarded. Regretfully enough I am guilty of having one of these decals on the back glass of an ol chevy hot rod truck I use to have.(high 13's in the 1/4)...which is awesome for a truck thats not tubbed out. At the end where the piss would be landing I had them put the words "Um All" to indicate piss on um all. As opposed to the typical ford,chevy,dodge,etc. Funny enough though whenever stock mustangs or cameros would hop me on the street or rev the motor at a light. It was inevitable that they were going to get a good look at the image on my back glass and then watch it fadin the distance.
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...ing20decal.gif

High 13's not bad man. I think that sticker comes with most Chevy's. Chevy people tend to more then others be elitists about their rides. There are some fantastic Chevys out there but i always believed people were missing out if they didn't enjoy all the great muscle cars that the USA has to offer. I never rev my engine, i baby the **** out of mine and its got the HIPO 289 with a four speed, it does alright.

Bloozcrooz 05-18-2011 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1055511)
High 13's not bad man. I think that sticker comes with most Chevy's. Chevy people tend to more then others be elitists about their rides. There are some fantastic Chevys out there but i always believed people were missing out if they didn't enjoy all the great muscle cars that the USA has to offer. I never rev my engine, i baby the **** out of mine and its got the HIPO 289 with a four speed, it does alright.

I hear ya man but you have to remember that was my first hot rod. I was still a kid pretty much..I know I was in my late teens early 20's. Full of piss and vinegar and not worried about any one particular thing just day to day livin. Really didnt care if the sun came up the next day honestly...i was an ass looking back now.... lol. Anyway I added to my earlier post as to what it had the truck had done to it. Not bad considering the few bolt ons that it had. Never had to go into the motor internally..even though i did want to.

FRED HALE SR. 05-18-2011 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozinbloozin (Post 1055520)
I hear ya man but you have to remember that was my first hot rod. I was still a kid pretty much..I know I was in my late teens early 20's. Full of piss and vinegar and not worried about any one particular thing just day to day livin. Really didnt care if the sun came up the next day honestly...i was an ass looking back now.... lol. Anyway I added to my earlier post as to what it had the truck had done to it. Not bad considering the few bolt ons that it had. Never had to go into the motor internally..even though i did want to.

Sounds like a pretty trick vehicle man. Chevy 350's are certainly the best small blocks ever made in my eyes. I've added a few pieces to my fastback most notably an msd, went with a stock exhaust which i regret now. I later added an edelbrock performer and carburetor and also a pertronix distributor which has done a pretty good job of adding some spark and horsepower on the top end. I only put it around on weekends for fun, so i don't need it to scream to enjoy it. I think most guys in their earlier days are kind of oblivious to the universe and think their **** doesn't stink, i was no different, thats why they call it growing up. :beer:

Necromancer 05-18-2011 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1055508)
Yeah very similar body style. Had the 318 in it which was adequate power for such a large car. Not the greatest but as an A-B car it was functional. Cost me 350 bucks running and with no rust damage and smogged so what can you do. True the rear ends weren't necessarily the greatest but overall the Demon is a really solid looking car. The 58 tbird was all there and i got it running before i sold it to the girl, so she got a good buy on it. Kind of has some nice classic lines on it and it had a 430 in it out of a 60 bird so it was probably more car then a teenager needed but she loves that car.

The 318 has always been known to be a dependable engine with endurance that lasted with the test of time usually, I had a 318 in a '72 Plymouth Satelite Sebring Plus, with bucket seats and slap stick, it showed a lot of spunk on the road. I did forget to mention that the Mopar 340 in the '72 Demon was one of the hottest small blocks that Ive ever owned, I would go out on a limb and suggest that the Mopar 340 was just as bad ass as the GM 327 could be, but I wont go that far. The Pontiac 400 could be just as mean as all of the others too. There's so many good basic factory engines we could talk about, let alone all the Hemi's and high performance factory engines there are to choose from.

FRED HALE SR. 05-18-2011 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by VocalsBass (Post 1055528)
The 318 has always been known to be a dependable engine with endurance that lasted with the test of time usually, I had a 318 in a '72 Plymouth Satelite Sebring Plus, with bucket seats and slap stick, it showed a lot of spunk on the road. I did forget to mention that the Mopar 340 in the '72 Demon was one of the hottest small blocks that Ive ever owned, I would go out on a limb and suggest that the Mopar 340 was just as bad ass as the GM 327 could be, but I wont go that far. The Pontiac 400 could be just as mean as all of the others too. There's so many good basic factory engines we could talk about, let alone all the Hemi's and high performance factory engines there are to choose from.

I couldn't agree more. It got me through for a good 6 years before i sold it for 500. The 318 will run into the ground if you let it. Mopar 340's are actually very compatible to the 327's i would venture to say that myself. That goes back to our original posts, there is really no reason to bad mouth any american muscle cars. They all have their attributes and deficiencies in one way or another. Thats why being able to manipulate it to your liking is so much fun to do. Nice talking to you guys, gotta get some work done. Take her easy guys. :band:

Bloozcrooz 05-18-2011 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VocalsBass (Post 1055528)
The 318 has always been known to be a dependable engine with endurance that lasted with the test of time usually, I had a 318 in a '72 Plymouth Satelite Sebring Plus, with bucket seats and slap stick, it showed a lot of spunk on the road. I did forget to mention that the Mopar 340 in the '72 Demon was one of the hottest small blocks that Ive ever owned, I would go out on a limb and suggest that the Mopar 340 was just as bad ass as the GM 327 could be, but I wont go that far. The Pontiac 400 could be just as mean as all of the others too. There's so many good basic factory engines we could talk about, let alone all the Hemi's and high performance factory engines there are to choose from.

Ive always heard good things about 318's as well. 327's were pretty much extinct before my time but again all good things that ive heard about them as well. Ive owned 350's, 302's,289's,460 big blocks,305's and a couple of 6 bangers. I love some old school mopar particulary the Super bee dukes of hazzard car. I use to know a guy when I was younger that had a cuda that ran low 10's and was street legal. he was spraying Nos but still I loved that car. Like Hale was saying I just love american muscle cars in general.


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