Yes, it is what I said. You did not read what I said correctly.

Vicissitude, maven.

I didn't say photography had no artistic value. Never in this thread have I said that all photography is not art. Look at the post I was replying to:

"So if a photographer made an exhibition about urban life in the 21st century you wouldn`t consider it art because they just went around taking photos of stuff?"

I said that that is void of any artistic merit.

Learn to fucking read.

"Oh, the cretinousness of assumption."

Why does that have no artistic merit?

And there's no need to swear at people. This is very interesting.

So everything that I think lacks artistic merit isn't art? That's bullshit, you don't have to like it but, it's still art.

Because it requires minimal talent and originality.

No. Everything that does lack artistic merit isn't art.

We're going in circles.

You're an idiot art is subjective there is no definite. No one has the place to judge what has merit and what does not. You can form your own opinion but you're rather conceited to think that it matters.

who decides what is "artistic merit" and not?

Apparently, Stone Magnet.

It is or isn't. There is no individual verdict. It's like asking if "******" is offensive or not.

If you believe all of this to be true, then why are you arguing with me?

I said no one has the place to say what is and isnt art or, what does and doesn't have merit. I'm not the one calling things not art.

Stone, you would go a long way towards credibility if you were to simply say you, personally, don't think it's art, rather than pass judgement for the masses.

Obviously, the photographer, the art gallery people, and the thousands who come to look at the exhibit think it's art.

Your opinion as to whether or not it's art is valid, but only to you. It extends no further than the end of your own nose.

You're the one saying that my opinion doesn't matter, then arguing my 'opinion'. If it doesn't matter, then shut up.

Credibility is worthless. People willl argue with me whether or not I say that it's 'just my opinion'. See above.

I'm sorry that I had to be the one to inform you that on the massive scale of the world, you as a single cell, don't count for much value. If enough people think it's art then it's art and they really don't care what you think.

if one person thinks its art then its art, and he/she wont care what everyone else thinks.

There is a big difference between Anesel Adams and some person taking photos with a digital camera.

No sh*t.

It's just a flower. This is art;
http://www.burburinho.com/img/nn020507a.jpg

That's not all that hard to do, just a technique known as masking which i'm doing right now. It does look good though. Actually now that I think about it it looks like he has used the modern way of using photoshop instead of traditional masking, i'm not too sure.

Thank you.

See, now, I thought that it was art. I waited until the sun went down behind the house, so I'd have light, but no shadows. Also, the mulch in the background looked richer, and the rocks looked more 3-D without direct sunlight.

But, if you say it's just a picture, then I suppose it's just a picture.

Well, most things taken with a digital camera can't really be considered art unless you alter them in some way. Art requires you to do more than just press a button and decide on a composition, the whole processing and developing of a film, making prints et cetera requires alot of work to do right, just like it does to paint a picture right. That's just my opinion though, and my opinion says anyone can take snapshots for a few postcards but it's not really art.

Art is alot about meaning and ideas behind the work, that's why going out and looking at something and taking a picture because it looks cool isn't art.

Hhmmm. That's interesting. I thought I knew a little about art. I guess I stand corrected. LOL.

I think the old philosophy One man's junk is another man's treasure should apply here. What's art to me may not be art to you and so forth and so on. Art can't be defined. It just is!!!

I think people have different interperatations of art as you say and people have different opinions of what constitutes commercial photography and artistic photography.

http://www.sportees.com/images/fabri...lack_small.gif

Photo taken in the pitch black, if someone can identify any artistry to it, I will give them a cookie.

Otherwise, I say Stone Magnet has made a fair argument.

My favorite color is black, does that count?

Photography is art. Stonemagnet was 10 pages of arguement really necessary?

He didn't say all photography wasn't art, just taking photos of other peoples art with a digital camera isn't.

Was it necessary for several members to berate me for their own assumptions? I never said that all photography is not art.

Whether he meant to or not, he did say that photography was "void of any artistic merit".
Please explain to me how an exhibit on urban life in the 20th Century done by a photographer is not artistic.

Once again, I said that the process of taking and printing photographs is void of any artistic merit. For example, taking pictures for a newspaper. That is the mere process of, well, taking pictures. It is of no artistic value or even intent. Photography can be a process, or it can be an art. You said that yourself.

Taking photographs of a town does not imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of nature. It is not imaginative, it requires nominal skill, and it is not aesthetically gratifying.

Not all photographers are artists.

1. The graffiti section really was just a little display of some local pieces and character's displayed in a fashion that is a bit unique, I thought at least.
2. If you don't think capturing graffiti is even an art in itself then what about architechture photography? Millions of dollars go into the just PICTURES of the buildings, not even the buildings themself. (the millions are not refering to one building, but rather a whole business)
3. What does it matter? Everyone is an art critic now but I think I would like to see some of your art before your complain about it what is/isn't.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...monk/star4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...monk/star5.jpg

Who is that?

Lauren?

i really like this picture a lot.. Is she hiding or crying? I bet she just doesn't want her picture taken? either way its a good picture... made me think..

yeah, we went to the park.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...monk/star6.jpg

hiding :laughing: glad to hear it got you thinking

hot girl

Thats one of the coolest toy car things ive ever seen

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...monk/star2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...monk/star7.jpg
and these always make me laugh

bungalow and a black guy:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...monk/sway6.jpg

:bringit:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...monk/sway9.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...monk/sway5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...monk/sway2.jpg