Feminism

Leo© · 02-11-2010, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred

Of course I did, how the hell is that supposed to be "figurative"?

Someone doesn't like me already?

Alfred · 02-11-2010, 09:06 PM

It's nothing personal, it's this idiotic intolerance that you projected.

Leo© · 02-11-2010, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred

It's nothing personal, it's this idiotic intolerance that you projected.

What's your view on feminism?

Alfred · 02-11-2010, 09:12 PM

I think that women do have equal rights and radical feminists annoy me. I do not, however, feel the need to engage in a debate about a subject that I'm not informed enough about.

Mojo · 02-12-2010, 10:27 AM

Feminism, by definition is something I am all for and something that was drastically needed and in some ways still is to this day. Not every feminist, in my own experience, seems to actually know what feminism is though or understand the concept of it.

If someone calls themselves a feminist and is looking for a universal, worldwide equality between both sexes then thats fine and thats something worth taking a stand for.

If someone calls themselves a feminist and seems to want to reverse the roles entirely then they are completely missing the point and give the word a bad name. I've noticed that a lot of these people are the kind of people that seem so desperate to avoid being seen as conceding any ounce of power on any level at all to a man that they take offense to a man just practicising good manners in ways that have already been touched upon in this thread. If i happen to do something as small as hold a door open for a woman then i expect a thank you, not a load of grief because you don't need anyone to do anything for you at all.

The man hating extremists can all go to hell as far as im concerned.

Vancouver · 02-12-2010, 12:10 PM

I was only able to read this thread because the bitch was making me a sandwich...

Fruitonica · 02-13-2010, 08:56 PM

Because if it becomes illegal, or too difficult and expensive to access then it's women who bear the vast majority of negative consequences.

Neapolitan · 02-13-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet

Does feminism have a place in our society?

We can vote, we can have jobs, we have educations... so is it still a valid cause?

Overthrow Feminism with Femininity! Feminism is over a hundred years old, come people Feminism it's fad like dancing the Charleston or something to that effect they're probably the same age. People aren't dancing the Charleston at clubs anymore so why bother to advance some antiquated failed "-ism". Feminism is just an excuse for guys to play video games all day long and collect government check while their girlrfriend goes to work at some high power lawyer firm - no offense to the women who allow there boyfreinds to do that. Womens place should be in the home in the kitchen sweating over diner by pushing buttons on her microwave - thats arduous work, it's not easy like in the old days when women had to prepare a meal, actually chop up the vegetables and cook it, set the table and then clean up after dinner.

right-track · 02-14-2010, 05:48 AM

Surely the issue of abortion is a moral one that includes both genders?
There are times when the egotistical cheek of a woman is truly staggering and this is one of them, along with leaving the toilet seat up.
Only yesterday my wife ordered me to buy her flowers (because of last year) for Valentines Day AND expected me to do the Sunday dinner too!
I was obliged to point out to her that Mothers Day was next month.

P A N · 02-14-2010, 09:57 AM

like any radical cause, feminism too suffers the challenge of having a single word describe an entire outlook. being that people create their perspectives and outlooks with the stuff of experience, it's pretty much impossible for the word 'feminism' to keep a grounded definition for all followers of the movement to abide by and believe in, because it's their experience that attaches meaning to the word rather than a definition firmly rooted in a conquerable cause.

there is a good chance that feminists who don't like having the door held for them or that just flat out hate men (or appear to anyway) have had experiences in the past that made them feel that way about the male gender, and have thusly adopted something which faintly resembles a moral standpoint on the issue to serve as an outlet for what basically amounts to plain anger.

feminism in the west, i will agree, is outdated. there is no good use for it. i just wish all those women would wake the **** up and realize that there are women and men and children and babies all over the place who don't even have doors to be held open for them to begin with. up with the equality of nations i say, and down with this one-track lack-of-peripheral **** that we call the causes of today.

02-11-2010, 09:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
Alfred one big soul Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 5,096	It's nothing personal, it's this idiotic intolerance that you projected. __________________ LAST.FM / VINYL COLLECTION / RYM

02-11-2010, 09:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
Alfred one big soul Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 5,096	I think that women do have equal rights and radical feminists annoy me. I do not, however, feel the need to engage in a debate about a subject that I'm not informed enough about. __________________ LAST.FM / VINYL COLLECTION / RYM

02-12-2010, 10:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	Feminism, by definition is something I am all for and something that was drastically needed and in some ways still is to this day. Not every feminist, in my own experience, seems to actually know what feminism is though or understand the concept of it. If someone calls themselves a feminist and is looking for a universal, worldwide equality between both sexes then thats fine and thats something worth taking a stand for. If someone calls themselves a feminist and seems to want to reverse the roles entirely then they are completely missing the point and give the word a bad name. I've noticed that a lot of these people are the kind of people that seem so desperate to avoid being seen as conceding any ounce of power on any level at all to a man that they take offense to a man just practicising good manners in ways that have already been touched upon in this thread. If i happen to do something as small as hold a door open for a woman then i expect a thank you, not a load of grief because you don't need anyone to do anything for you at all. The man hating extremists can all go to hell as far as im concerned. __________________ Last.FM \| Echoes and Dust

02-12-2010, 12:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
Vancouver Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 188	I was only able to read this thread because the bitch was making me a sandwich... __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/VancouverFlanke The face is familiar but I can't quite remember my name.

02-13-2010, 08:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
Fruitonica Pale and Wan Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Aus Posts: 917	Because if it becomes illegal, or too difficult and expensive to access then it's women who bear the vast majority of negative consequences.

02-14-2010, 05:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,769	Surely the issue of abortion is a moral one that includes both genders? There are times when the egotistical cheek of a woman is truly staggering and this is one of them, along with leaving the toilet seat up. Only yesterday my wife ordered me to buy her flowers (because of last year) for Valentines Day AND expected me to do the Sunday dinner too! I was obliged to point out to her that Mothers Day was next month.

02-14-2010, 09:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
P A N DO LIKE YOU. Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 629	like any radical cause, feminism too suffers the challenge of having a single word describe an entire outlook. being that people create their perspectives and outlooks with the stuff of experience, it's pretty much impossible for the word 'feminism' to keep a grounded definition for all followers of the movement to abide by and believe in, because it's their experience that attaches meaning to the word rather than a definition firmly rooted in a conquerable cause. there is a good chance that feminists who don't like having the door held for them or that just flat out hate men (or appear to anyway) have had experiences in the past that made them feel that way about the male gender, and have thusly adopted something which faintly resembles a moral standpoint on the issue to serve as an outlet for what basically amounts to plain anger. feminism in the west, i will agree, is outdated. there is no good use for it. i just wish all those women would wake the ** up and realize that there are women and men and children and babies all over the place who don't even have doors to be held open for them to begin with. up with the equality of nations i say, and down with this one-track lack-of-peripheral ** that we call the causes of today.