Feminism

Leo© · 02-11-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred

It's nothing personal, it's this idiotic intolerance that you projected.

What's your view on feminism?

Alfred · 02-11-2010, 10:12 PM

I think that women do have equal rights and radical feminists annoy me. I do not, however, feel the need to engage in a debate about a subject that I'm not informed enough about.

midnight rain · 02-12-2010, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Alfred

Yeah, because taking away someone's life because they're bigots is the solution to everything. Way to be rational.

Wow, learn the meaning of a figure of speech. Please.

And I agree that feminsim has overstayed it's welcome. If the driving force behind feminism is women being stereotyped, then it's a dead cause. Everyone is stereotyped for something (be it race, gender, occupation, whatever), and I'm afraid that ain't changing.

Mojo · 02-12-2010, 11:27 AM

Feminism, by definition is something I am all for and something that was drastically needed and in some ways still is to this day. Not every feminist, in my own experience, seems to actually know what feminism is though or understand the concept of it.

If someone calls themselves a feminist and is looking for a universal, worldwide equality between both sexes then thats fine and thats something worth taking a stand for.

If someone calls themselves a feminist and seems to want to reverse the roles entirely then they are completely missing the point and give the word a bad name. I've noticed that a lot of these people are the kind of people that seem so desperate to avoid being seen as conceding any ounce of power on any level at all to a man that they take offense to a man just practicising good manners in ways that have already been touched upon in this thread. If i happen to do something as small as hold a door open for a woman then i expect a thank you, not a load of grief because you don't need anyone to do anything for you at all.

The man hating extremists can all go to hell as far as im concerned.

Vancouver · 02-12-2010, 01:10 PM

I was only able to read this thread because the bitch was making me a sandwich...

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 02-12-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

And I agree that feminsim has overstayed it's welcome. If the driving force behind feminism is women being stereotyped, then it's a dead cause. Everyone is stereotyped for something (be it race, gender, occupation, whatever), and I'm afraid that ain't changing.

roflmao then, by your standards, *** rights and civil rights in all have overstayed their welcome?

Feminism is not a dead cause, just recently an amendment was almost passed saying that health care wouldn't cover abortions. That kinda sounds like a feminist issue, does it not?! That sort of thing shouldn't even be a ****ing political issue though.

duga · 02-12-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma

roflmao then, by your standards, *** rights and civil rights in all have overstayed their welcome?

Feminism is not a dead cause, just recently an amendment was almost passed saying that health care wouldn't cover abortions. That kinda sounds like a feminist issue, does it not?! That sort of thing shouldn't even be a ****ing political issue though.

The US needs to get its **** straight with the whole abortion issue. I can think of a LOT of reasons why they should be covered with the new healthcare plan. The fact that it is still so up in the air is the perfect evidence that this country is still run with religious ideology in mind.

midnight rain · 02-12-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma

roflmao then, by your standards, *** rights and civil rights in all have overstayed their welcome?

Feminism is not a dead cause, just recently an amendment was almost passed saying that health care wouldn't cover abortions. That kinda sounds like a feminist issue, does it not?! That sort of thing shouldn't even be a ****ing political issue though.

Seems to me that we're in the right position, as long as things 'almost' happen, but don't. It's the beauty of politics that **** like that doesn't get passed.

*** rights and civil rights can preach all they want about not stereotyping, I think it's just as futile seeing as most people who are willing to embrace their cause have already and others are forever tied to history. You cannot politically control someone's way of thinking.

duga · 02-12-2010, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna

You cannot politically control someone's way of thinking.

I disagree. This happens everyday. People care about certain issues because those are the issues that are presented to them on a regular basis. There are many other issues in the world that require our attention, but no seems to care because, well, no one hears about it. As of this week here is what is on everyone's mind (in general)

1) Snow.
2) Haiti.
3) Complain about Obama.

Why are these the issues on everyone's mind? Because they are the issues being played over and over on tv. Throw in a new abortion issue or a new *** rights issue, those will be the new hot topics (and not because they are the most relevant). People are controlled politically everyday.

midnight rain · 02-12-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

I disagree. This happens everyday. People care about certain issues because those are the issues that are presented to them on a regular basis. There are many other issues in the world that require our attention, but no seems to care because, well, no one hears about it. As of this week here is what is on everyone's mind (in general)

1) Snow.
2) Haiti.
3) Complain about Obama.

Why are these the issues on everyone's mind? Because they are the issues being played over and over on tv. Throw in a new abortion issue or a new *** rights issue, those will be the new hot topics (and not because they are the most relevant). People are controlled politically everyday.

I said "control", not influence.

Most people who believe abortion shouldn't be covered are those in the South with strong ties to their religion, some of the most stubborn people in the country. Rationalization is pretty rare. None of those issues are particularly controversial, either.

02-11-2010, 10:12 PM	#42 (permalink)
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02-12-2010, 11:27 AM	#44 (permalink)
Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	Feminism, by definition is something I am all for and something that was drastically needed and in some ways still is to this day. Not every feminist, in my own experience, seems to actually know what feminism is though or understand the concept of it. If someone calls themselves a feminist and is looking for a universal, worldwide equality between both sexes then thats fine and thats something worth taking a stand for. If someone calls themselves a feminist and seems to want to reverse the roles entirely then they are completely missing the point and give the word a bad name. I've noticed that a lot of these people are the kind of people that seem so desperate to avoid being seen as conceding any ounce of power on any level at all to a man that they take offense to a man just practicising good manners in ways that have already been touched upon in this thread. If i happen to do something as small as hold a door open for a woman then i expect a thank you, not a load of grief because you don't need anyone to do anything for you at all. The man hating extremists can all go to hell as far as im concerned. __________________ Last.FM \| Echoes and Dust

02-12-2010, 01:10 PM	#45 (permalink)
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