Lead Paint...FFS, shut up already.
 

Alright, people over here in NY are freaking out over the lead paint in their old houses. Now I understand it can do stuff to the head and seriously fuck you up, but seriously, unless you're a beaver or something and eat wood I don't think you need to worry.

And if you eat wood, you have bigger problems than lead paint.

Now, my granpa's a mason/contractor/all around know's-his-shit construction guy, and there's not a person in construction that doesn't know his name in the tri-state area. He said the exact same thing I did, along with the beaver comment. Not to mention he's a lead-paint expert.

What's your opin. on this?

^ I don't know. People in England sometimes worry about asbestos in their old homes. Breathe in the dust and you could die. It's f**king serious....

These two things [abestos and lead paint] are way different...
My granpa used to come home from work with asbestos on his clothes, and it gave him and my gram a lung disease...
And now they're suing the tobbacco company lol.
But anyway, like I said, unless you're eating the pain [[or sanding it, for that matter]] you won't have to worry about the lead paint.

Anyone born in the 1960's-1970's knows just how serious it is, birth defects and Cancer and stuff. You are sitting in front of your computer look it up for Christ's sake

What, asbestos or lead paint?

either would be a decent place to start

I never said asbestos wasn't very serious.

It's lead paint I'm un-concerned about....it was painted years ago, it's not in the air anymore unless you sand it off [[which I advise against]], and unless you're eating the wood there's not a way it can get into you.

sources???

Lead paint expert...been working with it ever-since ever. They want him to teach a class. [[he was a teacher for 2 odd years, teaching construction now that I think of it...]]

I highly doubt if you did an internet search it would say the same thing. Anyway if you need any work whatsoever done on your home (as most do in their lifetime) the house needs to be evacuated professionally cleaned etc and will cost you a lot more. Most contractors around here wont even touch it

He [[gramps]] just did a job cleaning out the stuff up here in NY, said it didn't bother him, but I guess everyone has different standards, y'know.

Well, I'd think talking one on one with an expert would be better than internet.

http://www.nsc.org/library/facts/lead.htm

^ Two for the price of one...experts and the internet.

wtf..

Me, the link or the thread?

yes...provided that "expert" actually knows what he's talking about. right-track just posted a link that outlines all the hazards of lead based paint. Funny your grandfather didn't mention any of that. I would have though an "expert" would be able to tell you more about all the ways in which lead paint can be hazardous to your health aside from "eating the paint".

On a side note, you say that everyone has different standards. When it comes to someone's health and safety, there isn't room for "different standards". There is only one standard, if it's not entirely safe, then it shouldn't be there. period.

He did tell me the hazards, but he said...his EXACT WORDS..."yea it can be dangerous, but, you really wouldn't have to worry about it unless your kids a beaver or something."

which is wrong. Lead paint, if it's not maintained, can easily get into the surrounding soil on the property. Kid play in their backyards. Any contact with lead contaminated soil can be extremely dangerous, as small children's hand's frequently come in contact with their mouths. So in conclusion, what your grandpa told you is wrong.

Grr.
You people are slow I swear..."UNLESS YOUR KIDS EAT IT."

Not just the wood/paint...anything that has to do eating the stuff.

:laughing:

This is what I love about the internet. A few people read a few pages on google & suddenly everybody is an expert and an arguement erupts over it.

Look at yourselves , you are argueing about paint for f*ck sake.

I didn't read it on google.
& Pop doesn't own a computer....

if that wasn't directed totally at me, sorry. lol.

...yeah...except your grandpa doesn't seem to realize that small children DO put things in their mouths that they shouldn't. So it IS a very serious health risk. One that your grandfather is downplaying. It's MUCH more serious a risk than he's making it out to be. Anyone who's been around a small child for a few hours would be able to tell you that. Why don't you actually do some research on it yourself, instead of just blindly following whatever your dear grandfather tells you.

First of all, he IS my dear grandfather and I'm fucking proud to say it.

I don't feel like researching it :)

Yeah and not only that, the fact that oygen affects lead just the way moisture and air cause rust to happen on a steal bicycle. It's always corroding, it just takes a long, long time. Which means it's always breaking down into finer particles that most aren't aware of.
Kids don't have to eat the paint to be unsafe. Even sores like wee scrapes or cuts can get infected the same way being stabbed with a pencil causes lead poisoning. The mouth isn't the only entry to the human body.

well....I don't know about that. some_exotic_booze's grandfather said you had to actually eat the paint for it to be harmful....and he IS an "expert"....so what he says MUST be true....

thread.

:D

first of all...there are more ways for the lead in the paint to get into your bloodstream than simply ingesting it. i mean, even a chip of the paint getting underneath your fingernail could get it there. lead paint has been an issue for a while, and its pretty damn serious if its caused cancer.

I'm going end this thread right now with a few quick words. Paint can get into your bloodstream alot of ways (read above posts). MadeinNY your grandpa is totally wrong.

/end of thread

are they seriously arguing about paint?

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Hmmm. Lead poisoning from a pencil?

They're graphite, not lead.

^i love making fun of people when they dont know that.

Oh do **** up cheeseman:p:

Haha I should've remembered that too since I took chemistry, where there were about a dozen occasions that the teacher noted properties of graphite and examples towards the lead in a pencil.

It's truly a good feeling:thumb:

Lead paint RULES!!! :beer:

You did not just seriously bump this..

rofl.
:laughing:

Hooray for the worst thread ever in MusicBanter history.

I would close this but it`s so kinda 'Plan 9 From Outer Space' bad it`s funny.

Now we`re gonna get Raine in here drooling over that lot

Please no one hold this thread against me haha.

am I that predicatble? :laughing: