Is petrol too expensive?? (quote, band, Alto, Computer)

LukeM_UK · 02-20-2006, 09:59 AM

I think it is. What do YOU think??

(Will it work??)

hookers with machineguns · 02-20-2006, 10:32 AM

Well it's all supply and demand. Oil production will probably peak within our lifetime, not to mention that natural gas production has probably already peaked, and coal is not far behind. It IS all related. Plus, don't forget, any turmoil/conflict in prolific Middle East oil infrastructures or with distributors, is going to shoot up prices in the future. Imagine $125/barrel. It can happen, very soon.

mosesandtherubberducky · 02-20-2006, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns

Well it's all supply and demand. Oil production will probably peak within our lifetime, not to mention that natural gas production has probably already peaked, and coal is not far behind. It IS all related. Plus, don't forget, any turmoil/conflict in prolific Middle East oil infrastructures or with distributors, is going to shoot up prices in the future. Imagine $125/barrel. It can happen, very soon.

How much would that make it per gallon?

hookers with machineguns · 02-20-2006, 10:49 AM

It would vary per distributor. Right now, it's fluctuating around $50-60 per barrel, and about average $2.20/gallon for premium unleaded, at least it is in the midwest. So, I would think at the extreme end, we could see times when gas is between $5 and +$6 per gallon. But it really depends on the demand as well as the situation in the M.E.

dog · 02-21-2006, 04:54 AM

two words. "electric cars". much more efficient, environmentary friendly, and quiet. need i say more?

LukeM_UK · 02-21-2006, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ledzeppelinrulz

two words. "electric cars". much more efficient, environmentary friendly, and quiet. need i say more?

Yes, please do. Electric cars are powered from batteries charged by electricity made from burning oil in power stations. So, as it will reduce emissions on the road, the problem still lies with the power stations. I can't see any simple way out of this. Maybe we shall all have to go back to pedal power and abandon cars altogether when the fuel runs out??

Just think of what can happen. No electricity, no electric lightbulbs, no cars, no television, no radio, no computers, no Internet, no Musicbanter.... Aaaaah!!!!

mosesandtherubberducky · 02-21-2006, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeM_UK

Yes, please do. Electric cars are powered from batteries charged by electricity made from burning oil in power stations. So, as it will reduce emissions on the road, the problem still lies with the power stations. I can't see any simple way out of this. Maybe we shall all have to go back to pedal power and abandon cars altogether when the fuel runs out??

Just think of what can happen. No electricity, no electric lightbulbs, no cars, no television, no radio, no computers, no Internet, no Musicbanter.... Aaaaah!!!!

Solar pannels would be much more effieciant for that.

LukeM_UK · 02-21-2006, 11:55 AM

^ Why didn't I think of that??

Doh!!

~~hiu~~ · 02-21-2006, 12:53 PM

The car companies know what they are doing, they have bought various rights to numerious types of cars for use after petrol. Of course they won't bring them out until after or near when petrol has reached it's preak so they can make some money.

Petrol is going to peak quicker than you think, it might be in 10 years from now or less even.

hookers with machineguns · 02-21-2006, 01:27 PM

Who's to say we haven't already seen the peak?

Well once there's a visible problem, there's probably going to be an increase in liquid fuel-from-coal. Then, once coal runs out, we're f*cked, and not in any good way.

In terms of transporation fuels, I'm all about ethanol, since it can be obtained from corn, soybeans, woodchips, switchgrass, lignocellulose, farm waste, etc. None of them are really energy or economically favorable right now though. Still there's no way ethanol can meet even a fraction of the total demand.

02-20-2006, 09:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
LukeM_UK Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 191	Is petrol too expensive?? I think it is. What do YOU think?? (Will it work??)

02-20-2006, 10:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,753	Well it's all supply and demand. Oil production will probably peak within our lifetime, not to mention that natural gas production has probably already peaked, and coal is not far behind. It IS all related. Plus, don't forget, any turmoil/conflict in prolific Middle East oil infrastructures or with distributors, is going to shoot up prices in the future. Imagine $125/barrel. It can happen, very soon. __________________ LASTFM

02-20-2006, 10:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,753	It would vary per distributor. Right now, it's fluctuating around $50-60 per barrel, and about average $2.20/gallon for premium unleaded, at least it is in the midwest. So, I would think at the extreme end, we could see times when gas is between $5 and +$6 per gallon. But it really depends on the demand as well as the situation in the M.E. __________________ LASTFM

02-21-2006, 04:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
dog this bird has flown Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: paris,texas Posts: 860	two words. "electric cars". much more efficient, environmentary friendly, and quiet. need i say more? __________________ formerly ledzeppelinrulz. http://theraffinkids.bandcamp.com/ music^

02-21-2006, 01:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,753	Who's to say we haven't already seen the peak? Well once there's a visible problem, there's probably going to be an increase in liquid fuel-from-coal. Then, once coal runs out, we're fcked, and not in any good way. In terms of transporation fuels, I'm all about ethanol, since it can be obtained from corn, soybeans, woodchips, switchgrass, lignocellulose, farm waste, etc. None of them are really energy or economically favorable right now though. Still there's no way ethanol can meet even a fraction of the total demand. __________________ LASTFM*

02-21-2006, 11:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
LukeM_UK Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 191	^ Why didn't I think of that?? Doh!!

02-21-2006, 12:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
~~hiu~~ Account Disabled Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,174	The car companies know what they are doing, they have bought various rights to numerious types of cars for use after petrol. Of course they won't bring them out until after or near when petrol has reached it's preak so they can make some money. Petrol is going to peak quicker than you think, it might be in 10 years from now or less even.