nice info on Janica, just to clarify, the woman won a race in each of the disciplines this year in the world cup, the combination, the slalom, giant slalom, super-g and downhill, only petra kromberger did that before her in one season, so she stands to win in any event ( although, realistically, it's not likely to happen ). if she wins just one more medal ( in salt lake she won 3 gold medals and one silver, and she didn't even compete in the downhill....btw..she was just 20 ) she will become the most succesful woman in the history of alpine skiing. quite rediculous when you think about the fact that croatia doesn't even have proper mountains, just a couple of hills and maybe 2 ski resorts, while the likes of sweden, austria, canada and america are eating her dust.

and btw jibber, i don't think you can say that bode underdelivered just yet, i believe he's competing in all the disciplines and just like Janica, stands to win any of them.....

Well can you write to the BBC and tell them to stop showing the wussy version then, especially to the detriment of all other sports in which people can and do fall over. A lot.

i cant believe apollo anton ohno blew his chance at 1500m speedskating gold? he had 2nd and didnt even need to pass to make it to the finals(1st and 2nd in each heat make finals). i was so disappointed. shaun white definitely own3d the halfpipe. and singles luge was also exciting. 80mph on a sled is outrageous. and then on the mens cross-country pursuit the guy went down in the beginning, and went from like 77th to 2nd place. amazing.

the wussy version? do you have any idea how hard it is to do those moguls? I can guaruntee you if you tried one run down a mogul field like that, going half as fast as they do you would fall within the first 3 feet and not be able to stop until you got to the bottom. It take rediculous amounts of strength to do what they do, even though it looks easy.

No, I mean proper ski jumping, ie, shoot off the end of a big ramp and FLY, none of this style and artistic merit nonsense.

style and artistic merit nonsense? That's what makes it interesting. Arial jumping isnt skiing. Most of the guys in that even are litterally just gymnasts who've learned how to land on skis. On a real mountain, they wouldnt even be able to link two turns together. The good stuff is when you combine both, big mountain lines, and rediculously nice trick. That "nonsense" as you call it is what gives our sport individuality, and what has completely revolutionized skiing. Before freeskiing started up, skiing was dying, because people were getting bored of chasing gates 24/7, doing the same icey run over and over and over, and having every movement dictated. Adding jumps, spins and grabs has breathed new life into the sport, and no matter how much you call it nonsense, it's f*cking hard, and if you think the guys going off jumps dont go big, you need to educate yourself. The freestyle skiing you see in the olympics is NOTHING compared to real freeskiing. try watching the X-Games to see some REAL jumps. these guys fly 85 feet horizontally, get about 20 feet above the ground level, spinning 1080's all while holding a grab and making it look insanely easy. These guys are progressing the sport, and keeping it from becoming stagnant. The olympic freestyle event is STARTING to show signs of it, but if you knew anything about freeskiing you'd laugh at how incredibly far beind they are. The olympics are a LONG way off from showing the REAL soul and excitement of freeskiing.

feel better jib? did the wicked man say something bad?

to illustrate my point, here's a photo taken last season. This is Tanner Hall throwing a switch 9 over Chad's Gap. for you non skiers and boarders, Chad's Gap is the most infamous gap jump in the world. At the time of this picture it was over 120 feet in horizontal length. He hit that jump going well over 70 mph, and he was going backwards at the time. Think about that long and hard, and then tell me that doesn't take major f*cking balls.

http://media.newschoolers.com/upload...s/1463HALL.jpg

Takes major f*cking stupidity

That's what makes it easier to cheat.

From what I've seen of the X-games, which I am happy to admit isn't an amazing amount, they all have a go, and then whoever is the biggest, most famous name wins, regardless of the tricks they do, because judging panels, in every sport, are a horrific mess of bias and corruption.

Being able to fly on skis a long distance would surely represent the best ability to fly on skis, and ergo would be worthy of a medal, same way whoever jumps the furthest in the long jump gets the gold medal. No need for "artistic merit" at all.

I'm not denying the talents of the people involved, so there's no need to challenge me to try moguls or 360's or whatever, I appreciate you have a passion for this that I don't share, but that was a bit of a pointless thing to say. If I could mogul or whatever, then I'd be out there, no doubt getting screwed over by bad judging because I'm not from a fashionable winter sports country.