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Old 01-24-2006, 11:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So whats up with Stephen Harper taken the Canadian prime Minister position? I don't know whats going on up there, but I have to imagine its slightly like we felt last year in november. May God take mercy on your soonly contorted nation.
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Old 01-24-2006, 11:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think it is a better alternative than leaving Martin as PM, he flat out stole from us. I think Harper will be the one to solidify Canada/US relations which needs to be done desperately, the last two cabinets have created a big divide. I am very optimistic about Harper's leadership
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You want ties to us for what reason. And I'm not so up on Paul Martin's theft, care to elabrate?
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Man i think there is nothing against Stephen Harper....he may be a wee bit uptight as of now but i think he was the man to win this time....him or Layton
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
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You want ties to us for what reason. And I'm not so up on Paul Martin's theft, care to elabrate?
took the words right out of my mouth. Harper scares me, he's definitely on the extreme, although to be honest, the liberals were not such a great alternative. This whole election was just awkward, I just didn't feel like there was a candidate that I felt at all comfortable with, which is not a good thing. At least it is a minority government, so there will be some balance of power. Maybe everything will come alright, the liberal/ndp parties will keep harper in check, and hopefully his government wont steal from us. The only thing I'm really worried about are his views on health care, environmental issues and education.
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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He lost over 200 million of our tax dollars due to a sponsorship scandal, at the time he was our finance minister. If a CEO of a company lost 200 million dollars wouldn't he be fired?

As for solidifying our ties, us not having troops in Iraq was a big piss off for me. If you have troops on the ground so should we, our relationship has suffered since. Our economy needs US business for us to be profitable, now most US business is looking offshore. GM and Ford have announced massive Canadian layoffs, this is not good.
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:24 AM   #7 (permalink)
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He lost over 200 million of our tax dollars due to a sponsorship scandal, at the time he was our finance minister. If a CEO of a company lost 200 million dollars wouldn't he be fired?

As for solidifying our ties, us not having troops in Iraq was a big piss off for me. If you have troops on the ground so should we, our relationship has suffered since. Our economy needs US business for us to be profitable, now most US business is looking offshore. GM and Ford have announced massive Canadian layoffs, this is not good.
I'm not even gonna TOUCH the iraq war issue. The US has no business being there in the first place, we have even less. That was the one thing I liked about martin, was that he actually stood up to Bush. I really fear the day that martin will start siding with Bush when it comes to the war in iraq. More military spending means less for health care, education, and environmental programs. Have you been to a hospital emergency room lately? If you have I can't see any way that you could argue that we don't desperately need more funding. and education, our public schools aren't exactly in the best state, universities desperately need more funding, tuition costs are through the roof, and it's become rediculously competitive because of the lack of space due to lack of funding. The bottom line is that canada DOESN'T NEED a stronger military, we DO need more funding for health care and social programs, education, and we need to continue the good work we're doing in our environmental programs.
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:41 AM   #8 (permalink)
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It all boils down to our economy, the more we scratch the US's back the more they scratch ours. I don't want to see big business going off shore, I want it here. More Canadian jobs means more career options and better overall quality of life for me, I couldn't give two shakes of a rat's hairy ass if the US belongs in Iraq or not. I want better options for the Canadian worker
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It all boils down to our economy, the more we scratch the US's back the more they scratch ours. I don't want to see big business going off shore, I want it here. More Canadian jobs means more career options and better overall quality of life for me, I couldn't give two shakes of a rat's hairy ass if the US belongs in Iraq or not. I want better options for the Canadian worker
better options for the canadian worker? how about making it possible for anyone to get a good education? I'm guessing you're not a student, because you don't seem to give a rat's a** about the state of our education system. What about health care? he's most likely gonna try and implement a two tierd system, meaning that people who have money will get the best treatment, and everyone else's health care system will be forgotten and left to detereorate even more. I'd actually be curious to know when you last had a serious medical condition that put you in the hospital for an extended period of time. I've had enough stays in the hospital recently to be genuinely scared about the level of funding and that was before harper. I shudder to think of what it's going to be like after he gets his hands on the system.
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:52 AM   #10 (permalink)
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^ I am sorry but I really don't have a lot of sympathy for the "starving student", I have more sympathy for the blue collared working man/woman. At least a student has the option of OSAP, what does the blue collar worker do when he/she needs some help?

As for health care a two tiered system isn't the worst thing that could happen, why shouldn't I have a choice? Contrary to popular belief our system is not the worst in the world


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