sxe - straight ****ing what now??
 

maybe i've been living in the dark ages but suddenly out of the blue has popped this new littfe fad that if i recall has been dubbed straight edge, so far from a few of the wierdos that are tryihng to live by it i have decifered that it means you listen to throw down, use the letter 'x' alot, don't drink, smoke, take any drugs of any form and the music quite frankly is just a bit naff, just (and i feel a bit old saying this) is a bit of a noise, i mean im not knocking the majority of bands that 'scream' as apose to just sing but its not even creative writing its just a constant breakdown with some lyrics that just seem thrown together, no technicalities, no feel, im just woundering what the point of all this 'straight edge' stuff really is? how's it meant to be enjoyed exactly??? because it certainly would suck for me...

Straight edge? new little fad? Straight edge new? ok....learn your facts before you whine about something..and i see nothing wrong with this fad, it sure as hell is better then kids drinking and smoking pot. Oh, non creative lyrics too? *s******* minor threat's lyrics kick ass.

sorry if i offended whino, i was just woundering what the **** it is, it just seems pointless to me. and hey maybe kids like smoking pot, why's it any of your concern what crazy things the kids do these days ey?

Am i supposed to be looking out for myself and be apathetic towards other kids, just because its their lives and not mine? Sorry, I'd much rather see a fad that promotes healthy living then see smoking is cool anyday.

well i personally couldn't really give a toss if you snuffed it i mean what do i care. plus if you'd care to read what i said as apose to just getting all pissy because i don't appreciate the sheer 'genius' that is straight edge, i didn't really knocked the lifestyle, was just curious to what the point of it was, its mostly the music that i find dry and uninteresting, plus look, you don't smoke pot and your an edgy ****. pot does nothing to promote violence it relaxes and all it does is cause slightly less damage to the lungs than smoking, if your concerned for the kids of today try picketing outside mcdonalds instead of knocking pot. i mean the fact that one fast food company causes more death than smoking pot you'd think that people would sorta point they're attention to something thats not at all beneficial and causes a problem for public health on a much larger scale, or do you just sit on your arse all day remenising with your arrogant 'straight edge' friends about how much better you are than the god awfull pot smokers like me that are knocking 10 years off their life by smoking those dreadfull joints. i mean they'll never be able to appreciate growing old enough to be able to **** themselves in public again and have a bed nurse clean it up, poor stupid buggers that we are. it's arrogant ****s like you that make it so i can't smoke a joint outside my own bloody house :(

I smoke pot and i strongly regret doing it and hate myself for it, and McDonalds is bad and i don't support it either i think its good for the youth to not be on drugs or is that such a bad thing?

it's not a bad thing at all but neither does it give you the right to shoot me down because i dont agree with you in the larger scheme of things, the fact that you provoked an arguement out of nothing when all i did was mearly express my curiosity for something i havent seen before is whats insulting. was a bit unnecessary to be honest.

So you thinks its okay for kids to be addicted to drugs just because it doesn't directly effect you? Sorry i just thinks thats fucking sick.

id hang out with the potheads before the jock core sxe meatheads anyday.

no, i just think they should have the freedom to choose wether or not to smoke pot and since when was it 'kids' i was drawing my attention to or were you just trying to make everything as dramatic as you posibly could? i generally think that weed is less harmfull than smoking and if either of the two should be eliminated (cause god knows society will never be able to eliminate both) it should be smoking.

Okay fine "teens" ive been saying youth this whole time and you hadn't had a problem with that and alot of kids suck at dealing with peer pressure but if a kid is wearing black Xs on his hand its much easier to say "im straight edge" then it is to say "no", because if being straight edge is cool then they don't feel dumb for turning down drugs.

straight edge is a faze. It usually lasts till about 19-21 then they stop. very few people stay straight edge. not that there arent older sxe's out there, but the older ones ive met werent always sxe. that and then theres the kids that couldnt make the football team.

your dodging the point, i wasn't knocking the straight edge lyfestyle from the start i was just defending myself after you paraded me with insults because i didn't appreciate the musical side of things. and why youth? why not people? if a kids ****ing stupid enough to give into the pretensious peer pressure thrown at them by a bunch of ****s then thats societys fault for throwing out idiots, i smoke pot because originally i was curious and then i aquired a taste for it, i in no way regret it and would rather not be yelled at for it on a forum by the likes of you.

Straight edge is movement from music you have to appreciate the musical side of it, and plenty of kids fall into "pretensious peer pressure" thrown at them by half the time their best friends not "bunch of ****s" and if you don't wanna be called an idiot for smoking pot, don't post about it im opposed to drugs because they're addicting and can ruin your life naturually i think its stupid and i regret it. So call me ignorant or whatever ill still think drugs are bad.

drugs are bad mmmkay...
http://blogwood.com/images/mackeyrobe.jpg

i dont have to appreciate the musical side at all, and im not going to pretend i dont smoke pot for you, now your just being a ****ing idiot, ill smoke pot and bring it up whenever the **** i like, who are you to shoot me down for it? honestly, you had no arguement when you began posting and you still havent got one because your spouting crap in a desperate attempt to slade me because i don't wanna conform to your style of music, its really quite sad, rather than just recognise your mistake and leave you've chosen to just continue rambling on like an idiot, every time you post i have to explain to you where your missing the point and that everything you say is deriving out of nothing but what you think you've read in your head, seriously can you stop wasting my time by making a desperately poor case that im imoral for smoking pot and that your the leader, a moral messiah of a pact that'll lead us boldly into the future with your crappy music and straight edge lifestyle or must you persist? oh and by the way sxe is far from a movement, the likes of hendrix provoked a movement, generally i think more than a small minority would have to abide by it for it to be a movement.

um.....wow you say im edgy? lol don't call my music crappy for one you probaly don't know what i listen too and i don't care, i think drugs are bad oh boo hoo kill me for it.

Ethan you lost.

moley, don't go down to his level.

I used to be "edge" realized how much I didn't like missing out on things, and stopped. I've tried pot, didn't like it much. society makes it out to be much worse than it is me thinks. But alcohol...muahahaha.

How did i lose? Im still hella confused at what hes trying to get at..

i think your right mate, the little phrase under my paragraphs sort of springs to mind whilst talking to this ****. i think ill leave it here and just ignore him from now on, the topic is still open for discussion just ignore that guy.

from what I gathered moley was questioning what straight edge really means these days. i also think he was saying that it used to be interesting in music but nowadays is rubbish (which is oh so true)

and you lost when you stooped down to base insults and sweeping generalizations.

*still confused*
How did i lose? and for insults he just reffered to me as an idiot and said i was a "****", dont see how im guily of it and he isn't.

moley, to answer your question from what i know about sXe.
Its not a new thing, it has been around since the early 80s, maybe sooner. It was a movement of sorts, then died down, and has recently been making a comeback (again, this is just from what ive witnessed being in the punk scene for over 13 years) most of the music is just as you explained, sort of a dropped down east coast hardcore knock off. Mostly nowdays its all about the crews. Plenty of kids dont drink or smoke but youll find its the ones that go around claiming sXe that seem to be apart of these crews that are in some cases worst than any gangmember, religious nut, or nazi. Minor Threat did have some good lyrics, but i wouldnt put them on a pedistal, ive seen Ian Mckay drink.

see thats the sort of feedback i was looking for, although on a whole im a bit dissapointed, i was hoping there'd be some interesting mildly appealing things about sxe id missed. but it appears otherwise :( ah well, atleast i have a better idea as to what its all about now.

Straight edge was pioneered by Minor Threat, although they aren't really a straight edge band as such. It was the early 80s when they formed and were only around for a few years. Ian Mackaye (Minor Threat vocalist) was writing lyrics, some about drugs for himself and nobody else. That's why from what I gather Ian and Minor Threat really didn't want what was to come with the straight edge movement and so forth. Another distinct difference is Minor Threat wasn't as 'hardline' as alot of the bands to come were. What I understand is Minor Threat lyrics were more directed at drug addicts not casual drug users and Ian not wanting anything to do with them etc.

SXE has been around for a LONG time now. So yeah. And it's not a fad.

Where would we be with out your insightful pictures Fenix?

an interesting topic sXe is. i personally think it that's what people want to do then thats fine. the thing that annoys me is when they all go around wearing ****ing X's and preaching about how bad drugs and **** are. i mean i dont go around with weed symbols on my hand telling everyone to smoke up. in summing up most sXe's are fine, thats their lifestyle, but some are just self righteous pricks who think that they are better than everyone else because they don't do anything bad. and in my honest opinion i think listening to the music they listen to is more damaging that pot. but hey dont get angry at me guys, thats just my opinion.

Hehe, you sound like my mate, that makes me want to give you a big hug. :)

My views on sxc: not going to happen. Pot is ok every now and then, and so is alcohol. I'm a person who does everything in moderation, so I can't possibly **** up my life if I do drink.

Any alcoholic will tell you exactly the same bullsh*t story too.

I doubt vanilla is an alcoholic, but usually you can tell whether or not the person is lying just by looking at their life.

Not saying she is,but that's the same story I said and then before I knew it I'd become one.
Not saying everyone's as weak willed as myself

My life barely changed at all except for the drinking

I hate lying, and you know what else I hate? People like moley who don't give a **** about herion addict kids on the streets, because it's apparently better to do drugs and alochol then be sxc.

Sorry but that isn't logical. No wonder people feel so alone, because others are too selfish to give a crap whether they are wasting their lives away with drugs when they could be really living!

I'd rather do neither.All I have to do now is give up nicotine

I dont give a sh*t about heroin addict kids on the streets....

I'd hate to be your kids.

Yes I must admit, that was the most witty and intelligent response to a post yet. /stopwackinghimoff

Now whos wackin who off?