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Old 12-09-2005, 12:40 PM   #31 (permalink)
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im not laughing by any means. death is a sad thing, i know that. but even if we dont know the reason he killed himself, the fact still stands that he did it. and the fact that anyone would have that much disrespect for the people who love them, well.....that just makes no sense.

he apoligized, but no amount of appoligy could make up for the loss that his loved ones suffered.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:40 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I'm not gonna laugh about this.
He still killed himself, and death is, well, sad.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:44 PM   #33 (permalink)
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im not laughing by any means. death is a sad thing, i know that. but even if we dont know the reason he killed himself, the fact still stands that he did it. and the fact that anyone would have that much disrespect for the people who love them, well.....that just makes no sense.

he apoligized, but no amount of appoligy could make up for the loss that his loved ones suffered.
I know someone that killed themselves. Very well, I'd known them for all of 13 years of my life. I've accepted that it was his decision, his life. We should have the right to decide whether we live or die, no one should be forced to live. But I know all people are different, and his loved ones might not see it that way at all. It's just harsh to blame someone for deciding to end their life. Especially if there's gonna be people laughing at the circumstances. Pisses me off. (Not you PTS)
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:45 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Death IS sad. And I don't know why. It's just normal human-instict.

I feel bad for the guy. Suicide is sad to. So says some peiple....so I shall frown for him.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:48 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I know someone that killed themselves. Very well, I'd known them for all of 13 years of my life. I've accepted that it was his decision, his life. We should have the right to decide whether we live or die, no one should be forced to live. But I know all people are different, and his loved ones might not see it that way at all. It's just harsh to blame someone for deciding to end their life. Especially if there's gonna be people laughing at the circumstances. Pisses me off. (Not you PTS)
Rozi, I totally agree. I don't know anyone that's killed themselves personally, but my friends grandad shot himself and her dad can't cope with seeing things like guns or people suffering as a result of it. I think it is the persons choice whether they live or not, and their family and loved ones have to respect their wishes. I suppose.
& Also. It pisses me off that people are laughing about it too.
There are some things I have VERY strong views on and this could well be one of them.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:51 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Rozi, I totally agree. I don't know anyone that's killed themselves personally, but my friends grandad shot himself and her dad can't cope with seeing things like guns or people suffering as a result of it. I think it is the persons choice whether they live or not, and their family and loved ones have to respect their wishes. I suppose.
& Also. It pisses me off that people are laughing about it too.
There are some things I have VERY strong views on and this could well be one of them.
Thank you. I know everyone's gonna be telling me to "lighten up" and whatever, but.. There are some things you just cant. Yeah, its definately one of those things that you can't and won't back down on.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:52 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I know someone that killed themselves. Very well, I'd known them for all of 13 years of my life. I've accepted that it was his decision, his life. We should have the right to decide whether we live or die, no one should be forced to live. But I know all people are different, and his loved ones might not see it that way at all. It's just harsh to blame someone for deciding to end their life. Especially if there's gonna be people laughing at the circumstances. Pisses me off. (Not you PTS)
well..ill start by saying that im sorry for your loss.

and although i know you said that you've accepted that it was decision, but when it happened, im sure you were heartbroken. i mean, if someone that i was close to committed suicide, i know that i would be. and i understand your point that it was his life, and that no one else should tell him whether to live it or not.. but its not that fact that i was arguing. im saying that by choosing, through his own free will, to make all those people so sad, he showed an almost unmatchable form of disrespect. i know it may be harsh to, as you say "blame them" for ending their lives, but it's also a harsh thing to take your own life and leave all those people with your death.
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maybe I can wait in bed 'til she comes home. and whispers....

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Old 12-09-2005, 12:55 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Thank you. I know everyone's gonna be telling me to "lighten up" and whatever, but.. There are some things you just cant. Yeah, its definately one of those things that you can't and won't back down on.
i'm by no means telling you to lighten up. i accept that you feel strongly about this subject. im just expressing my views on other peoples opinions.
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maybe I can wait in bed 'til she comes home. and whispers....

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Old 12-09-2005, 12:56 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Thank you. I know everyone's gonna be telling me to "lighten up" and whatever, but.. There are some things you just cant. Yeah, its definately one of those things that you can't and won't back down on.
It's a serious matter.
It needs a serious answer.
I'm sorry for your loss too.
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:06 PM   #40 (permalink)
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well..ill start by saying that im sorry for your loss.

and although i know you said that you've accepted that it was decision, but when it happened, im sure you were heartbroken. i mean, if someone that i was close to committed suicide, i know that i would be. and i understand your point that it was his life, and that no one else should tell him whether to live it or not.. but its not that fact that i was arguing. im saying that by choosing, through his own free will, to make all those people so sad, he showed an almost unmatchable form of disrespect. i know it may be harsh to, as you say "blame them" for ending their lives, but it's also a harsh thing to take your own life and leave all those people with your death.
Thankyou. And yes, at first, we all were. But, its been three years now, no one is actually mad at him. We couldnt be, it was his decision entirely, I'd rather he left than stayed here living as he was. I hope for his sake he didnt feel guilty for leaving us, but some things are rather left not thought about.. Thats the main regret I feel about it all now, not the fact that "he left me Ill never see him again". Its more the hope that they got what they wanted at the end of it all. I dont think many people can stay mad at someone for leaving them if they really couldnt stand to live anymore. To me, thats more selfish. Making someone so guilty that they feel they have to stay living, no matter how much they hate it.

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It's a serious matter.
It needs a serious answer.
I'm sorry for your loss too.
Thanks jess.

And, sorry if my rambling there made no sense. Im not quite here today, my apologies.
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