now this is punk rock:how much do u despise the government? (sex pistols, Slipknot)

sleepy jack · 11-28-2005, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

You're right that the threads in the wrong place, as its not really about punk music. At the same time, free speech means that you have the freedom to say what you want, NOT that everybody else gets to hear it in its pure, untampered-with form and it the original context.

Of course cause the goverment is stalking bands approving everything they say and editing it

The only time anything is censored is because its mainstream and its censored by the record label not the goverment freaking out cause the band said fuck america.

11-28-2005, 10:56 AM

if the gov wants to cencsor what a musician says .. the gov will kill you (have you killed )

sleepy jack · 11-28-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PATROH

as in the case of peter tosh and mr marley --
getting ppl to stand against the gov -- the gov will kill you

and misfitpunk
what about the radio

"The only time anything is censored is because its mainstream and its censored by the record label"

That would under mainstream and they dont censor. "I dont like bush", They censor Fuck and i dont see how us not hearing swearing is gonna ruin our minds.

DontRunMeOver · 11-28-2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MIsfitspunk

Of course cause the goverment is stalking bands approving everything they say and editing it

The only time anything is censored is because its mainstream and its censored by the record label not the goverment freaking out cause the band said fuck america.

Look, I don't know what level you're trying to look at this from but I'd like to get deeper into it, not get all blase and say the government has no planned effect on music and likewise not get into crazy "We're all being subliminally influenced by 50 cent" paranoia. Governments affect how they fund the arts, governments may have some effect over which music shows are broadcast, when and which channels. They can have large impact on the availability of live music, rehearsal and performance provisions etc. in different areas. Governments can't make bands write certain songs and not others*, but they can influence what types of bands are around and therefore what type of musical scene is going on in any one place.

For example, everywhere I've lived I've been aware of much more funding being put into 'high' culture (theatre, orchestras and musical theatre, even though musicals are rubbish) by councils than is invested in providing venues for rock bands or rock nights. Care to discuss?

*(Unless they're commies... ah those commies)

11-28-2005, 11:29 AM

government -were gonna make them all like britny spears

*patroh shooting his toe

sleepy jack · 11-28-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

Look, I don't know what level you're trying to look at this from but I'd like to get deeper into it, not get all blase and say the government has no planned effect on music and likewise not get into crazy "We're all being subliminally influenced by 50 cent" paranoia. Governments affect how they fund the arts, governments may have some effect over which music shows are broadcast, when and which channels. They can have large impact on the availability of live music, rehearsal and performance provisions etc. in different areas. Governments can't make bands write certain songs and not others*, but they can influence what types of bands are around and therefore what type of musical scene is going on in any one place.

For example, everywhere I've lived I've been aware of much more funding being put into 'high' culture (theatre, orchestras and musical theatre, even though musicals are rubbish) by councils than is invested in providing venues for rock bands or rock nights. Care to discuss?

*(Unless they're commies... ah those commies)

The first portion of that served no purpose as i said the mainstream is always gonna be fucked in that sense and as for that last part. Adults/rich people care more for shakespeare then they do for slipknot.

cherrychic · 11-28-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MIsfitspunk

Gosh the is a stupid thread.
How come anything anti goverment that serves no purpose to punk music.
Is ALWAYS posted in the punk forum?
You guys are acting the goverment is approving and disapproving all lyrics.
We have free speech idiots notice how leftover crack is still going and dead kennedys are still selling albums.

thanx lots guys that was very upbuilding and nice *sarcasm*. i guess i'm just gonna go die now cuz i;m not a good thread maker. i'm not worthy of making threads. (thanx for trying to help halfbaked and patroh)

11-28-2005, 12:08 PM

well according to the poster s with high post counts
you have nothing to contribute

i for one think this is a great thread

cherrychic · 11-28-2005, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PATROH

well according to the poster s with high post counts
you have nothing to contribute

i for one think this is a great thread

awww. that's so sweet. thanx, i guess i'll live.

11-28-2005, 12:27 PM

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11-28-2005, 10:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
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PATROH Guest Posts: n/a	well according to the poster s with high post counts you have nothing to contribute i for one think this is a great thread

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