Thanksgiving- Racist Holiday

music_phantom13 · 11-17-2009, 12:18 AM

Well I mean... my family tradition is to chant a thanks to the settlers for killing all of the Native Americans, then desecrate an authentic skull from the time of the Pilgrims by pissing in it. I guess I could see where some might view this as slightly racist.

Really though, that's a dumb idea. There's only one thing more idiotic than saying that Thanksgiving is a racist holiday. And that's digging up a 4 year old thread about it on a music forum, for your first post no less.

Neapolitan · 11-17-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by loveissucide

It's not racist in the way that celebrating the 12th Of July in Northern Ireland is, and it dosn't celebrate the destruction of Native Americans, it celebrates the founding of the colonies,which are seperate things.

I don't know what happens on the 12th, the Orange show off their true colors??

It's not a racist holiday. It's agricultural in origin, it's not so much founding of the colonies, as it is a harvest feast. The Isrealites had something similar in the Feasts of Booths. And being religious that is probably why the Pilgrims celebrated the first Thanksgiving.

lucifer_sam · 11-17-2009, 07:36 AM

i'd say it's more imperialistic than racist. racist is this button word designed to stir the Irish up in people, it's well out of context here. i suppose imperialistic isn't nearly incendiary enough to make it work.

TheBig3 · 11-17-2009, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

i'd say it's more imperialistic than racist. racist is this button word designed to stir the Irish up in people, it's well out of context here. i suppose imperialistic isn't nearly incendiary enough to make it work.

...the irish people?

Beanzy100000 · 11-17-2009, 03:04 PM

If the Native Americans are offended by it then I guess it would be racist

loveissucide · 11-17-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I don't know what happens on the 12th, the Orange show off their true colors??

Unionists celebrate the destruction of Irish independence and the imposition of the penal laws upon Catholics, as well as the Cromwellian massacres of Catholics.

Kevorkian Logic · 11-17-2009, 09:14 PM

yay, this idea again. if you have to explain yourself in more than a sentence it's probably not racist enough to offend anyone enough to warrant a whole thread.

Neapolitan · 11-17-2009, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

i'd say it's more imperialistic than racist. racist is this button word designed to stir the Irish up in people, it's well out of context here. i suppose imperialistic isn't nearly incendiary enough to make it work.

What are you saying!? the Pilgrims, unbeknownst to the American Indians, were celebrating the fact they were part of British imperialism and disguised it as a harvest festival? I thought calling Thanksgiving racist was super-nonsensical but calling it Imperialistic, really?

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Originally Posted by loveissucide

Unionists celebrate the destruction of Irish independence and the imposition of the penal laws upon Catholics, as well as the Cromwellian massacres of Catholics.

Forgive me for not knowing, you have to understand, the story of the Irish Catholics suffering persecution is erased from the annals of post-modern contempary popular history. I didn't know about the Cromwellian massacre of Catholics, either. I knew about the persecution of Catholics in Elzibethan England, but Catholicism did survive in some places in England, the further you were away from London the safer you were.

kouki · 11-18-2009, 01:24 PM

Dont really celebrate anything on thanksgiving,I just eat turkey and chill with my family.

Freebase Dali · 11-18-2009, 06:02 PM

*facepalm*

I ate a turkey sandwich today for lunch.

It was pretty fucking racist.

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lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	i'd say it's more imperialistic than racist. racist is this button word designed to stir the Irish up in people, it's well out of context here. i suppose imperialistic isn't nearly incendiary enough to make it work. __________________ first.am

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kouki Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Devils armpit (aka Phx,AZ) Posts: 126	Dont really celebrate anything on thanksgiving,I just eat turkey and chill with my family. __________________ It jiggles when he wiggles-Fez

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Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	facepalm I ate a turkey sandwich today for lunch. It was pretty fucking racist. __________________

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music_phantom13 Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 942	Well I mean... my family tradition is to chant a thanks to the settlers for killing all of the Native Americans, then desecrate an authentic skull from the time of the Pilgrims by pissing in it. I guess I could see where some might view this as slightly racist. Really though, that's a dumb idea. There's only one thing more idiotic than saying that Thanksgiving is a racist holiday. And that's digging up a 4 year old thread about it on a music forum, for your first post no less.

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Beanzy100000 Groupie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3	If the Native Americans are offended by it then I guess it would be racist