Coppor-Tongue

I managed to find an old post on here of a guy looking for EXACTLY the same music as me, by description. The only problem is, it's an old post (2011 I think) and ome of the replies weren't my thing so I will try to be more descriptive.

Essentially, I'm desperately looking for a noir jazz, but something a tad darker than the things on youtube. Something you'd hear in a gritty detective film, with smoke-filled bars, and the ambient buzz of the neon 'BAR' sign outside. I've some examples here of the kind of thing I'm looking for. The best way I would describe it is slow, crimejazz. Nothing you'd hear in a romantic noir film, something a tad more serious. Here are some perfect examples.

Edit: I can't post links due to me being a new member with few posts so here are the titles for youtube videos.

'L.A. Noire Main theme RainyMood'

'David Gilmour - Red Sky At Night '

Any replies are greatly appreciated. Even if you don't think a song is what I'm looking for, post it anyway, there are no 'WRONG' replies.

Here is the aforementioned post:

Edit: Again, can't post links. Just search 'Sleazy detective music'