Is jazz considered classical music?

Tristan_Geoff · 01-12-2016, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Birdsong is music
Jazz is hip hop
Hip hop is ragtime

lel.

DeadChannel · 01-13-2016, 01:27 AM

Noise is easy listening.

grindy · 01-13-2016, 01:38 AM

Harsh noise is rock'n'roll.
It actually really is.

**Frownland** · 01-13-2016, 01:41 AM

I'd say that a lot of it is more punk rock.

grindy · 01-13-2016, 01:43 AM

Yeah, but punk is rock'n'roll in the broadest sense.

**Frownland** · 01-13-2016, 01:52 AM

Prock n runkoll it is.

stingo · 01-15-2016, 01:25 PM

Depends on who's listening I think, though I have heard jazz described as America's classical music - take that for what you will. Speaking for myself, I got into jazz via classical music, as they both (to me) require the same amount of active listening/concentration to fully appreciate what's going on.

As a side note, I think that while jazz is more associated with improvisation, it's not certainly not a stranger in classical music. To me, a lot of the "improvisation" comes from the composer, who develops and modifies his themes and motifs. To my mind, jazz on the other hand relies more on sketches from the composer, and it's up to performers to fill in the blanks. And while some solos/cadenzas are written out for the classical performer, improvisation is certainly no stranger to the genre, I'm thinking. In fact, a (classical) musician who could not improvise was considered a very dull performer.

Gibrockson · 01-15-2016, 03:43 PM

I totally agree with you !

**Frownland** · 02-05-2016, 03:17 PM

That would be folk music.

MusicMakesLifeLivable · 03-18-2016, 09:36 AM

there's crossover in every genre, look up 'Chamber Jazz' but in general I'd say 'no' because jazz is known for improv, right? What do I know? Not much.

01-13-2016, 01:38 AM	#23 (permalink)
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01-13-2016, 01:41 AM	#24 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I'd say that a lot of it is more punk rock. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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grindy . Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: . Posts: 7,201	Yeah, but punk is rock'n'roll in the broadest sense. __________________ *A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.*

01-13-2016, 01:52 AM	#26 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Prock n runkoll it is. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

02-05-2016, 03:17 PM	#29 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	That would be folk music. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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DeadChannel Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 1,259	Noise is easy listening.

01-15-2016, 01:25 PM	#27 (permalink)
stingo Groupie Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 29	Depends on who's listening I think, though I have heard jazz described as America's classical music - take that for what you will. Speaking for myself, I got into jazz via classical music, as they both (to me) require the same amount of active listening/concentration to fully appreciate what's going on. As a side note, I think that while jazz is more associated with improvisation, it's not certainly not a stranger in classical music. To me, a lot of the "improvisation" comes from the composer, who develops and modifies his themes and motifs. To my mind, jazz on the other hand relies more on sketches from the composer, and it's up to performers to fill in the blanks. And while some solos/cadenzas are written out for the classical performer, improvisation is certainly no stranger to the genre, I'm thinking. In fact, a (classical) musician who could not improvise was considered a very dull performer.

01-15-2016, 03:43 PM	#28 (permalink)
Gibrockson Groupie Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: https://t.me/pump_upp Posts: 4	I totally agree with you !

03-18-2016, 09:36 AM	#30 (permalink)
MusicMakesLifeLivable Groupie Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 45	there's crossover in every genre, look up 'Chamber Jazz' but in general I'd say 'no' because jazz is known for improv, right? What do I know? Not much. __________________ so serious