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Yeah Heroin didn't give Billie Holiday new insights into world weariness and aged wisdom. It just became a trap she couldn't escape from and dragged her down. I think she might have done work that was just as achingly beautiful and worldy in her later years without heroin, but it might not have been so unrelentingly sad and hopeless. I have a hard time listening to stuff like 'Lady in Satin' because it is just so grim and sad. She was f*cked and she knew it.

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Originally Posted by elijah.s7 (Post 1227475)

What is jazz about? do you enjoy Jazz?

Well you dont, you dont enjoy jazz, you appreciate jazz mostly,

Tell me how you think and I'll respect your perspective. Tell me how to think and you can go f*ck yourself.

Sorry, sorry! Just blundered in here by mistake! Don't mind me: just HAVE to pinch that for my very first quote in a sig ever! Kudos, Dave! Kudos my friend! :clap:

Whats wrong taste like?

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 1228940)

Tell me how you think and I'll respect your perspective. Tell me how to think and you can go f*ck yourself.

Wow you just summed up my feelings about the current state of politics in America. Heavy.

politics is **** everywhere

face it, they're all evil

I'd rather listen to JAZZ, baby....

yeah, jazz is definitely darker and more evil

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1229187)

Sorry, sorry! Just blundered in here by mistake! Don't mind me: just HAVE to pinch that for my very first quote in a sig ever! Kudos, Dave! Kudos my friend! :clap:

Cool :beer: You join Antonio as the only other person with some of my words as their sig hehe. Vegangelica had asked to use one of my lines in the past but I don't think she ever updated her profile.

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Originally Posted by elijah.s7 (Post 1227475)

What is jazz about? do you enjoy Jazz?

Well you dont, you dont enjoy jazz, you appreciate jazz mostly, yes sometimes it can be enjoyable when you listen to bill Evans or Dave Brubeck classically trained musicians or some remarkable and rare posts like "Kind of blue".
but jazz is mostly about appreciating good playing performance in a solo,

jazz is mostly for musicians because its really not about pleasure or even about about music as like classical music is about music, its about you, its about extending your limits of playing, expressing your nature through playing in a solo, sometimes it is even egoistic and a sort of competition between players who will out play who..in just a few chords of a particular piece that is bebop.
yes Jazz can sometimes be pleasurable for instance if maybe a sax plays slowly and gives you some mood or atmosphere by playing some random or not random long notes and it can be not bad sometimes really for that particular moment but i wonder who remembers it after its done besides remembering the person who played and remember oh yes hes a good player but what did he play? oh gosh i dont know..Jazz has one huge problem, its does not like silence!.

I never felt this way about jazz in general, but I did feel this way about the blues, as far as appreciating rather than enjoying the idiom is concerned. As I actually developed an appreciation for the blues that changed and its value as an enjoyment became clearer. That's true for a lot of other things. I think that the above is the expression of a person that really has an incompletely developed appreciation for the form in the first place.