Mt. Rushmore of Jazz?

Engine · 12-05-2010, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Who aren't the 4 what you would have chose?

The Mount Rushmore faces of course: Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and T. Roosevelt.

The first 3 are standard I guess and if were going to spend a gazillion dollars on carving president busts into mountains I think they're fair choices. My real problem is with TR. I just don't like him. Who to replace him with? If it has to be a US Pres I would stick with the originals and throw John Adams or James Madison up there

TheBig3 · 12-05-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine

The Mount Rushmore faces of course: Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and T. Roosevelt.

The first 3 are standard I guess and if were going to spend a gazillion dollars on carving president busts into mountains I think they're fair choices. My real problem is with TR. I just don't like him. Who to replace him with? If it has to be a US Pres I would stick with the originals and throw John Adams or James Madison up there

I'd love to take this to PM or another thread. But why you would take down TR, I have no idea.

Not to mention, he loved what would become Jazz.

clutnuckle · 12-05-2010, 07:35 PM

Coltrane, Ayler, Taylor, Coleman.

Both based on personal preference and what they brought to the scene.

Engine · 12-05-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by clutnuckle

Coltrane, Ayler, Taylor, Coleman.

Both based on personal preference and what they brought to the scene.

Cecil Taylor?
I like the list. Mine would have looked more like it if I had listed my 4 favorite artists. Ornette Coleman for sure

clutnuckle · 12-05-2010, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine

Cecil Taylor?
I like the list. Mine would have looked more like it if I had listed my 4 favorite artists. Ornette Coleman for sure

Yup, Cecil. Ornette's more of my 'influence' one - Probably just because I haven't been wowed by much that I've checked out, and becuase I simply haven't checked out enough. Since he played a really big role in Free Jazz and his compositions really helped move it along, I kind of owe a lot to him just for that, since Free Jazz is my favorite subgenre of Jazz.

Plus, in a couple of years when I'm more versed in his music than I am now, I'll definitely have more good things to say about him.

musiclistsareus · 12-20-2010, 05:38 PM

Armstrong, Ellington, Davis...yeah the 4th one is tricky. Who is the Teddy Roosevelt of jazz? Monk or Coltrane would be my suggestion(though Parker is another understandable choice)

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 12-20-2010, 05:47 PM

Coltrane, Russell, Armstrong, Coleman. Debating whether or not Zorn deserves a place in there, but I figure this is more of a foundations of jazz kind of thing right? Like the founding fathers.

Violent & Funky · 12-20-2010, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan

Coltrane, Russell, Armstrong, Coleman. Debating whether or not Zorn deserves a place in there, but I figure this is more of a foundations of jazz kind of thing right? Like the founding fathers.

Well, sort of. Two of the presidents were founding fathers, while the other two were not...

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 12-20-2010, 11:22 PM

Right. But I meant their offices were highly influential. Zorn is influential but it'd be a bit like putting Clinton or Reagan on mt. Rushmore.

SATCHMO · 12-21-2010, 12:43 AM

I basically consider Zorn an avant-garde composer and visionary . Yeah, a lot of the stuff he's done falls into the jazz vein, but I'm really hesitant to consider him a jazz icon.

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musiclistsareus Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 64	Armstrong, Ellington, Davis...yeah the 4th one is tricky. Who is the Teddy Roosevelt of jazz? Monk or Coltrane would be my suggestion(though Parker is another understandable choice) Last edited by musiclistsareus; 12-20-2010 at 05:39 PM. Reason: left something out

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clutnuckle Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: -_-_-_-_~__~-~_-`_`-~_-`-~-~ Posts: 1,276	Coltrane, Ayler, Taylor, Coleman. Both based on personal preference and what they brought to the scene.

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~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,538	Coltrane, Russell, Armstrong, Coleman. Debating whether or not Zorn deserves a place in there, but I figure this is more of a foundations of jazz kind of thing right? Like the founding fathers.

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~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,538	Right. But I meant their offices were highly influential. Zorn is influential but it'd be a bit like putting Clinton or Reagan on mt. Rushmore.

12-21-2010, 12:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,847	I basically consider Zorn an avant-garde composer and visionary . Yeah, a lot of the stuff he's done falls into the jazz vein, but I'm really hesitant to consider him a jazz icon.