Furious jazz rock?

8roundcapacity · 10-17-2009, 11:36 PM

I'm looking for some hard rock that incorporates jazz elements/organs/keyboards and drumming styles and time signatures. A good reference point would be early Grand Funk Railroad and "Black Friday", "Do It Again" by Steely Dan...recommends? basically a ton of groove.

SATCHMO · 10-17-2009, 11:43 PM

Steely Dan & GFR...furious jazz rock...really?

8roundcapacity · 10-18-2009, 12:16 AM

well to me. Haha. If you have better ideas I'm all ears. I've been listening to metal my whole life. My tastes are maturing I suppose. And apparently you like The Residents. So I will value your suggestions highly!

SATCHMO · 10-18-2009, 12:56 AM

I think the Allman Brothers really get sold short in the jazz influenced rock department

Kole · 10-18-2009, 02:45 AM

Definitely Niacin - YouTube - Niacin - Barbarian @ The Gate , Dennis Chambers band - YouTube - Extraction ~Proto Cosmos~ 2003 , Return to Forever has some crazy jazz fusion stuff - YouTube - Return To Forever (w/Bill Connors) 1974 , also Weather Report - YouTube - Palladium by Weather Report , Cherry Five (nowadays called Goblin, maybe more prog rock than jazz fusion, but hey, still great) - YouTube - Country Grave-yard - Cherry Five
That's for now, if you want more stuff, just say, jazz fusion is THE genre for me.

hip hop bunny hop · 10-18-2009, 06:52 PM

Erm, well, if you like jazz & metal, and want a "furious combination" of the two:

Cynic - Focus
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
Gorguts - Obscura

The gorguts release reminds me of Mingus.

8roundcapacity · 10-18-2009, 06:58 PM

I've heard all those bands but I'm going to get back into them. Biggest problem I have with them is the guitar tone (hard to carry over a distorted metal tone into expressive jazz) and it's lacking in the keyboard department. But it's all great stuff and thanks for jogging my memory about it.

SATCHMO · 10-18-2009, 09:56 PM

I'd really recommend Kayo Dot's Choirs of the Eye, some post-rock with jazz elements.

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

Erm, well, if you like jazz & metal, and want a "furious combination" of the two:

Cynic - Focus
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
Gorguts - Obscura

The gorguts release reminds me of Mingus.

This is good to know. I'm always looking out for dark/heavy jazz

hip hop bunny hop · 10-19-2009, 01:34 AM

With Gorguts, keep in mind their early stuff is traditional DM but their later stuff is where they got weird...

Anyways, I forgot Painkiller. Painkiller is John Zorn on sax/some vox, Bill Laswell on bass, and Mick Harris on drums & some programing. I'm not familiar with Bill Laswell, but John Zorn brings his saxophone, and Mick Harris - ex Napalm Death - brings his Grindcore and Dub inclinations to the fold. "Guts of a Virgin" is my favorite album by them.

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Biggest problem I have with them is the guitar tone (hard to carry over a distorted metal tone into expressive jazz) and it's lacking in the keyboard department.

Eh, I like a lot of old school metal, so I tend to look past the instruments being used and to how they're being used. Further, I think if a band can recreate a jazz experience using the same instruments Chuck Berry used.... well, that's all the more amazing.

Zarko · 10-19-2009, 08:48 AM

Not familiar with Laswell? For shame

Furious jazz rock ye say????
Here be all ye need!

Love that video

Though I guess some might be soft and want their more accessible stuff

10-17-2009, 11:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
8roundcapacity Groupie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 36	Furious jazz rock? I'm looking for some hard rock that incorporates jazz elements/organs/keyboards and drumming styles and time signatures. A good reference point would be early Grand Funk Railroad and "Black Friday", "Do It Again" by Steely Dan...recommends? basically a ton of groove.

10-18-2009, 02:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
Kole Groupie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 24	Definitely Niacin - YouTube - Niacin - Barbarian @ The Gate , Dennis Chambers band - YouTube - Extraction ~Proto Cosmos~ 2003 , Return to Forever has some crazy jazz fusion stuff - YouTube - Return To Forever (w/Bill Connors) 1974 , also Weather Report - YouTube - Palladium by Weather Report , Cherry Five (nowadays called Goblin, maybe more prog rock than jazz fusion, but hey, still great) - YouTube - Country Grave-yard - Cherry Five That's for now, if you want more stuff, just say, jazz fusion is THE genre for me. __________________ "Most people wouldn't know good music if it came up and bit them in the ass." Frank Zappa

10-17-2009, 11:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	Steely Dan & GFR...furious jazz rock...really?

10-18-2009, 12:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
8roundcapacity Groupie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 36	well to me. Haha. If you have better ideas I'm all ears. I've been listening to metal my whole life. My tastes are maturing I suppose. And apparently you like The Residents. So I will value your suggestions highly!

10-18-2009, 12:56 AM	#4 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	I think the Allman Brothers really get sold short in the jazz influenced rock department

10-18-2009, 06:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
hip hop bunny hop Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,381	Erm, well, if you like jazz & metal, and want a "furious combination" of the two: Cynic - Focus Atheist - Unquestionable Presence Gorguts - Obscura The gorguts release reminds me of Mingus.

10-18-2009, 06:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
8roundcapacity Groupie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 36	I've heard all those bands but I'm going to get back into them. Biggest problem I have with them is the guitar tone (hard to carry over a distorted metal tone into expressive jazz) and it's lacking in the keyboard department. But it's all great stuff and thanks for jogging my memory about it.

10-19-2009, 08:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
Zarko Barely Disheveled Zombie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1,196	Not familiar with Laswell? For shame Furious jazz rock ye say???? Here be all ye need! Love that video Though I guess some might be soft and want their more accessible stuff