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Johnny Winter 47 50.54%
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Old 09-18-2009, 10:03 AM   #31 (permalink)
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If you're criticizing them respectively, I don't think you can call SRV just another "generic blues rocker."
True. He was THE generic blues rocker.
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Old 09-18-2009, 09:56 PM   #32 (permalink)
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True. He was THE generic blues rocker.

I can't stand Ac/DC but Angus Young was the consummate generic Blue-Rock Rocker, he didn't play out of the blues scale box, but I'm not knocking him, Angus Young was a pretty at what he does being a generic Blues-Rock Rocker.

I think there's a difference, just like there is a difference between medium and medium-rare with steak there is a difference a generic blues Rocker and the caliber of guitar player such as Stevie Ray Vaughn. Stevie Ray Vaughn was more truer to the blues then the guitarist of the 70's, like say Jimmy Page who used the blues scale as a jumping off point into hard Rock riffs.

If one knew about the Blues one would know Stevie Ray Vaughn style is was heavily influnce by Buddy Guy.

Please don't tell me that Buddy Guy is a generic blues...
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:29 AM   #33 (permalink)
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SRV and Johnny Winter are both Texas Blues players. There is a certain sound they both have, but both have drawn upon classic blues (Mississippi Delta and Chicago blues) for the songs they have done. Johnny Winter has leaned more towards Delta stuff, and SRV more Chicago or the urban style. Winter has been around longer (he's older) and while not in great health, he still plays. Saw him a few times back in the 70's, awesome
player. White Hot and Blue and Still Alive And Well are a few of may favorite albums.
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Old 09-20-2009, 01:43 PM   #34 (permalink)
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johnny winter is a brill guitarist but stevie ray vaughan is the best with jimi hendrix as a close second because they both copy each others guitar riffs and do the same tricks if I had to choose between jimi hendrix and stevie ray vaughan stevie would be my number one choice
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johnny winter is a brill guitarist but stevie ray vaughan is the best with jimi hendrix as a close second because they both copy each others guitar riffs and do the same tricks if I had to choose between jimi hendrix and stevie ray vaughan stevie would be my number one choice
Hendrix died before Stevie Ray became famous..... they obviously didn't copy each others guitar riffs, Stevie Ray copied Jimi.
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johnny winter is a brill guitarist but stevie ray vaughan is the best with jimi hendrix as a close second because they both copy each others guitar riffs and do the same tricks if I had to choose between jimi hendrix and stevie ray vaughan stevie would be my number one choice
Don't get me wrong, I love Jimi, but his greatest asset was his taste, not his skill. Jimi wasn't a genius. It also kinda scares me that you actually think Jimi and SRV are the greatest guitar players. If you had said favorite, I would've let it alone.
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I can't stand Ac/DC but Angus Young was the consummate generic Blue-Rock Rocker, he didn't play out of the blues scale box, but I'm not knocking him, Angus Young was a pretty at what he does being a generic Blues-Rock Rocker.

I think there's a difference, just like there is a difference between medium and medium-rare with steak there is a difference a generic blues Rocker and the caliber of guitar player such as Stevie Ray Vaughn. Stevie Ray Vaughn was more truer to the blues then the guitarist of the 70's, like say Jimmy Page who used the blues scale as a jumping off point into hard Rock riffs.

If one knew about the Blues one would know Stevie Ray Vaughn style is was heavily influnce by Buddy Guy.

Please don't tell me that Buddy Guy is a generic blues...
Buddy Guy is fairly generic blues but nothing like the generic quotient of Stevie Ray Vaughn.

I have no idea what your point was with regards to AC/DC.
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Buddy Guy is fairly generic blues but nothing like the generic quotient of Stevie Ray Vaughn.
Early on, Buddy was rarely generic (though it was obvious who his influences were). Buddy's first album outshines pretty much everything SRV ever did.

I'll take Winter. I've never cared for the stroking, overrated sounds of SRV.
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Buddy Guy is fairly generic blues but nothing like the generic quotient of Stevie Ray Vaughn.

I have no idea what your point was with regards to AC/DC.
imo Angus Young is a generic blues-rock guitarist not Stevie Ray Vaughn, Angus just used the blues scale and some power chords, but Stevie toured and hanged around the original Blues guitarist and gather vital esoteric Blues knowledge, and did cover songs of other guitar players like Jimi Hendrix & Lonnie Mack, that imo makes him a notch above just generic.
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imo Angus Young is a generic blues-rock guitarist not Stevie Ray Vaughn, Angus just used the blues scale and some power chords, but Stevie toured and hanged around the original Blues guitarist and gather vital esoteric Blues knowledge, and did cover songs of other guitar players like Jimi Hendrix & Lonnie Mack, that imo makes him a notch above just generic.
Angus Young sounds like power pop compared to either SRV or Johnny Winter.
They were so much deeper into blues playing. In fact, I have never really thought of AC/DC as blues.
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