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Friday 12-23-2006 12:29 PM

Frank Sinatra
 
What do you think of Ol' Blue Eyes? I recently bought an album of his for myself, after being brought up on his music.

Do you think he is as important as he is made out? Or do you think his music is no longer relevant?

right-track 12-23-2006 12:35 PM

I thought he had a shite singing voice.
Although it was distinctive and an horses head in the bed didn't do his career any harm either.

[MERIT] 12-23-2006 05:05 PM

Frank Sinatra is a gawd. He put rat-pack music on the map. His music is timeless.

littleknowitall 12-24-2006 10:00 AM

Surprisingly a HUGE fan of sinatra and the rat pack in general, blame my dad for introducing them to me young....

Mama Booze 12-30-2006 07:56 AM

I love Frank! He's one of my favorite. First heard I Won't Dance in What Women Want, never turned back since. Timeless.

Music Man 01-11-2007 10:19 AM

I like Sinatra, but I don't know about the oft-repeated claim that he was "THE voice of the 20th Century".

In that particular genre of music, I'd have to go with Bing Crosby. And IMO, there were several in that genre who sang with greater feeling.

DontRunMeOver 01-11-2007 10:27 AM

I personally can't listen to Frank Sinatra having heard a few of the same songs performed by Michael Buble. I used to like Frank, but compared to Buble, Sinatra sounds like some silly old man grunting at kareoke. Bing Crosby IMO had a nice voice but there was something almost patronising about his timbre.

Friday 01-11-2007 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver (Post 324140)
I personally can't listen to Frank Sinatra having heard a few of the same songs performed by Michael Buble. I used to like Frank, but compared to Buble, Sinatra sounds like some silly old man grunting at kareoke. Bing Crosby IMO had a nice voice but there was something almost patronising about his timbre.

Buble isn't a patch on Frank. Frank had a distinctive voice and bags of charisma. He also wasn't too bad of an actor in my opinion either.

Music Man 01-11-2007 11:01 AM

Buble is the best of the current crop of singers in that genre, but he'll never fill Sinatra's shoes. And I'll bet that Buble would be the first to admit that. I've heard Buble interviewed before, and he has a very deep respect for Sinatra and other old-timers.

calacirya1 02-21-2007 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Music Man (Post 324146)
Buble is the best of the current crop of singers in that genre, but he'll never fill Sinatra's shoes. And I'll bet that Buble would be the first to admit that. I've heard Buble interviewed before, and he has a very deep respect for Sinatra and other old-timers.

very true.
another thing about Sinatra, besides his immense amount of talent and charm, that is key is how he has impacted music as a culture. I mean, it's 2007, and at least everyone that i know (young and old alike) know who frank sinatra is and like him. If you want to exemplefy timelessness Frank Sinatra is the example.

littleknowitall 03-01-2007 07:00 AM

I'll never be bored with Frank or the rat pack, it'll just never happen..

Maddest_Hatter 03-01-2007 09:29 AM

Frank was, is and always shall be the man! He had an awesome voice! I can sit and listen to him all day.

littleknowitall 03-04-2007 01:39 PM

^ love the eddie avatar by the way!

Lady_funk 04-14-2007 03:28 PM

Frank Sinatra is a legend! his music is fantastic. i think hes one of a kind.

Mr_headshot 09-11-2007 07:52 AM

Sinatra
 
Need I say more?

I wonder how he's regarded on this forum.
Frank Sinatra is one of my all time favorite recording artists, I know it's a bit cliche but I can't help that. The man put so much into some of his songs it's just awesome. I was actually driving to school this morning and "I'm a fool to want you" came on my CD; it pretty much made me cry. I've never heard another singer who can make me feel so many emotions with thier work.

Also, my favorite song of his would be "The Coffee Song"
because I love coffee and I relate it to some great memories.

can_i_say 09-11-2007 03:21 PM

An obvious legend, my favorites are Send In The Clowns and New York

ProggyMan 09-12-2007 07:35 PM

Jazz and Blues? Try pop. Not to be rude.

Mr_headshot 09-12-2007 08:12 PM

I realize it was pop, but also big band jazz and lounge.

considering he sang with the likes of the Dorsey Bros. and Buddy Rich...I believe that would be considered Jazz, popular Jazz.

Would Glenn Miller or Count Basie be pop too?

ProggyMan 09-12-2007 08:32 PM

He di do that, but most of his popular, generally considered definitive work was easy listening pop.

Mr_headshot 09-12-2007 10:01 PM

Which I'll agree with, I consider him mainly lounge jazz though. Seeing as how he was a "lounge" act

ProggyMan 09-12-2007 10:50 PM

Still most of his hits were pop. Jazzy pop, but still pop.

Wayfarer 10-10-2007 12:56 AM

Oh for fuck's sake, fuck off, would you? It does get irritating, y'know, this nitpicking. Yes, Frank was a "traditional pop" singer, but a rather jazz-oriented one, so it could go in either forum, really. But here you are, of course, making it sound like someone started a Gorguts thread in the Classical forum - stirring up arguments for the sake of arguing. Fuck off. Please. Please, please, please, choke on some vomit or something. Even if it's not your own. Please, you mongoloid fuck. For the greater good of humanity, just fuck off. "In Rainbows" is available as of today, and because of you, so many individuals are not going to be able to enjoy it as much as they could. I mean, I'll sure try, but it's going to be difficult when I'm sitting here thinking, "Damn, That Proggyman sure is a fucking stupid-ass motherfucker. If only I could reach through the screen and bludgeon the bastard. Oh, what I would give to be able to do that." Then I'll trail off, thinking about what I would and wouldn't give to be able to bulldoze a side of your skull in with a blunt, otherwise useless object, such as this Holy Bible here, and then, suddenly, the album will end. My first listen, ruined, all because of your smug, masturbatory guitar solo-adulating ass. You are a blemish on our collective unconscious and it would be greatly appreciated if you'd fuck off.

Frank was ace btw.

ProggyMan 10-10-2007 08:30 PM

If you worry that much about some stranger on an online forum then you should really contemplate suicide. Especially on a comment made weeks ago. It was a pefectly healthy conversation about Sinatra anyway, why complain?

sleepy jack 10-10-2007 08:31 PM

Because your pointless and anal bitching is everywhere and it's fucking annoying.

Wayfarer 10-10-2007 08:36 PM

Ah, c'mon. Don't tell me you actually took that post seriously.

Is annoying though...

ProggyMan 10-10-2007 08:42 PM

Why wouldn't he? If you have a problem with someone take it to a mod, and don't post in a dead thread where I wasn't doing anything wrong.

Wayfarer 10-10-2007 08:59 PM

1. I was talking to you.

2. Awww, somebody call the WAAAAAHmbulance.

3. You were nitpicking at ridiculous shit and it was annoying.

ProggyMan 10-10-2007 09:02 PM

You're talking about whining? How is asking whether or not he belonged in the Jazz/Blues forum ridiculous? It's a thread about him, what's wrong with a discussion about what genre he is?

sleepy jack 10-10-2007 09:03 PM

Did you even read your ****ing posts? You were going on about how he belonged in the pop forum because he was jazzy pop, ****ING JAZZY.

ProggyMan 10-10-2007 09:04 PM

Nick Drake is jazzy folk, and yet you'd probably move a thread about him from the Jazz forum.

sleepy jack 10-10-2007 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 406055)
Nick Drake is jazzy folk, and yet you'd probably move a thread about him from the Jazz forum.

If he'd only released Bryter Layter he'd probably fit fine in here, minus some songs but lets pretend the entire album is jazzy folk. There's Made to Love Magic, Pink Moon, and Family Tree which are all folk releases and Five Leaves Left which is mostly folk. In addition to that Bryter Layter is only jazzy in parts. But Nick Drake has nothing to do with this, you're acting like a douchebag.

Wayfarer 10-10-2007 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 406052)
How is asking whether or not he belonged in the Jazz/Blues forum ridiculous? It's a thread about him, what's wrong with a discussion about what genre he is?

There's a vast difference between asking a simple question and smugly stating your misinformed opinion, and, succeeding correction, going as far as to actually argue with people about it. What makes it worse is that your argument hardly even made sense.

ProggyMan 10-10-2007 11:41 PM

Frank Sinatra is pop, with a bit of Jazz. Therefore he belongs in the pop forum. The point is you're being a jackass by bringing this up in a thread instead pming or a mod.
@Crowquill: A lot of Sinatra's work has nothing to do with Jazz, and Five Leaves Left has some jazzy parts. Bryter Layter is very jazzy.

Edit: Just lock this Crowquill.

Wayfarer 10-10-2007 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 406119)
Frank Sinatra is pop, with a bit of Jazz.

Quote:

misinformed opinion
^^^

ProggyMan 10-10-2007 11:48 PM

No it's not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sinatra#Early_career

sleepy jack 10-10-2007 11:49 PM

Wikipedia is not a legitimate source.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 406119)
Frank Sinatra is pop, with a bit of Jazz. Therefore he belongs in the pop forum. The point is you're being a jackass by bringing this up in a thread instead pming or a mod.
@Crowquill: A lot of Sinatra's work has nothing to do with Jazz, and Five Leaves Left has some jazzy parts. Bryter Layter is very jazzy.

Edit: Just lock this Crowquill.

Are you fucking blind? I said that already point remains there's still Made to Love Magic, Family Tree and Pink Moon. I'm not locking this. If you weren't such an anal douchebag this thread would be fine.

ProggyMan 10-10-2007 11:51 PM

Oh right, I'm the one who ressed it with a complaint that had nothing to do with the thread really. That's bull****.

Wayfarer 10-10-2007 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 406123)

Yeah, dipshit, scroll up a bit.

Genre(s): Jazz, Swing, pop standards

"...was an Italian American jazz-oriented popular singer..."

ProggyMan 10-10-2007 11:55 PM

Emphasis on oriented and popular.

sleepy jack 10-10-2007 11:59 PM

You argue everything and parade your uninformed opinion around the forums and try to prove it as fact. When you're asked to back it up you post a link to a site that is open to the public for editing and not known for its accuracy. In addition to that you don't even read the articles or maybe you do but you just can't comprehend them. The site clearly states hes jazz and no one but you has had a problem with him being in this forum.

You spend more time talking out of your ass and bullying new members than you do posting anything of worth. I've seen nothing from you but ignorant opinions and trolling and thats what the real bullshit is and with that I lock this thread. A word of advice, you can either continue to act like a douchebag until you're hazed off the forum or you can learn something and start acting nice and maybe people will actually start to like you.


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