Stevie Ray Vaughan (blues, rock, album, fan, jimi hendrix)

Unitedbyrock · 12-09-2005, 05:55 PM

Any fans of the late great man here?

What a guitarist! My favourite album is 'couldn't satnd the weather' and my favourite song is 'pride and joy'

He just had a great feel to his playing!

Yanqui_UXO · 12-09-2005, 07:04 PM

he's a great guitar player but wasn't very innovative or anything.

Zezima · 12-09-2005, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Yanqui_UXO

he's a great guitar player but wasn't very innovative or anything.

Yea,

i would have to agree with that.

fidelityfiend · 12-29-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Yanqui_UXO

he's a great guitar player but wasn't very innovative or anything.

When you master a craft as he did you don't have to be innovative. SRV is one of the top ten guitarists ever bar none. Not just blues guitar - he was a giant - all the greats (Clapton, Page, Beck (Jeff Beck), Blackmore, B.B. King etc etc have all stated that he was one of the best ever.

IMHO innovative guitarists are few and far between. The dude from RATM was probably the most recent groundbreaker - Eddie VH before that. $0.02

Crazy_Diamond91 · 12-19-2010, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by fidelityfiend

When you master a craft as he did you don't have to be innovative. SRV is one of the top ten guitarists ever bar none. Not just blues guitar - he was a giant - all the greats (Clapton, Page, Beck (Jeff Beck), Blackmore, B.B. King etc etc have all stated that he was one of the best ever.

IMHO innovative guitarists are few and far between. The dude from RATM was probably the most recent groundbreaker - Eddie VH before that. $0.02

I agree with this guy here as far as the innovators go. I'm not even a big fan of RATM, but when I saw that guy on TV (I think it was the RNR Hall of Fame Concert), I almost licked the TV. I feel terrible for overlooking that one.

I must also say this... so many people claim Jimi Hendrix is one of the best because he was "innovative," but I don't understand why they say that. Sure, he lit his guitars on fire and played with his teeth once in a while, but how was that innovative?

The Bullet · 12-19-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazy_Diamond91

I must also say this... so many people claim Jimi Hendrix is one of the best because he was "innovative," but I don't understand why they say that. Sure, he lit his guitars on fire and played with his teeth once in a while, but how was that innovative?

You're joking, right? I take it you don't play guitar. He did so much for guitarists, even outside of that ****. He did as much for music as showmanship. He popularized wah-wah pedals, and pedals in general. Do you have any clue how significant that is? EVERY guitarist uses pedals now. Also, he started Phycedelic rock in a sense. It existed before him, but he really made the genre what it is- pure sounds of LSD.

He would take so much time trying to get amazing sounds out of his guitar, using multiple pedals, reversing it, and everything else he could. His early bandmates thought he was hearing things. They couldn't hear he was dojng something different, they heard insanity, because in those days, Elvis was considered crazy and uncomprehensible. It's just so clear now, though, how amazing his guitar tones were. Before him, no one cared about "guitar tone" really, or no one would have gone to lengths like that. Those long, drawn out phycedelic outros on the longer songs on Electric Ladyland? It was done once or twice before, but he was one of the true pioneers. A song ended where a song would end before him. Having sound transfered from one speaker to the next, in a gradual process (well, not exactley gradual, but non-instant)? I forget the name of the technique, but he was one of the first to do that, too. And he just improvised when he was playing live (most of the time). No one jammed as much as he did. In his early days, producers would get really, really mad at him for that. I remember reading, in his Nashville days, one producer faded his part whenever he refused to simply play eighth-notes on a basic chord progression.

Just listen to Are You Experienced and Electric Ladyland. You can hear that he was the first to do this stuff, even if it's commonplace not, because that passion for exploration just pours out, and it just has that "original" quality. :| (and on that note: MB needs an "indifferent" smiley)

Mrd00d · 12-21-2010, 05:01 AM

Well said about Jimi ^

Some of my favorites of SRV's are his staples. Nothing really gets you like Lenny. The emotion in the first 45 seconds should have you hooked. Tin Pan Alley is fantastic, too. But I really like throwing on a track like Dirty Pool. I always go back to Dirty Pool. I listen to it more than I do Texas Flood. Great album...

Bloozcrooz · 01-04-2011, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bullet

You're joking, right? I take it you don't play guitar. He did so much for guitarists, even outside of that ****. He did as much for music as showmanship. He popularized wah-wah pedals, and pedals in general. Do you have any clue how significant that is? EVERY guitarist uses pedals now. Also, he started Phycedelic rock in a sense. It existed before him, but he really made the genre what it is- pure sounds of LSD.

He would take so much time trying to get amazing sounds out of his guitar, using multiple pedals, reversing it, and everything else he could. His early bandmates thought he was hearing things. They couldn't hear he was dojng something different, they heard insanity, because in those days, Elvis was considered crazy and uncomprehensible. It's just so clear now, though, how amazing his guitar tones were. Before him, no one cared about "guitar tone" really, or no one would have gone to lengths like that. Those long, drawn out phycedelic outros on the longer songs on Electric Ladyland? It was done once or twice before, but he was one of the true pioneers. A song ended where a song would end before him. Having sound transfered from one speaker to the next, in a gradual process (well, not exactley gradual, but non-instant)? I forget the name of the technique, but he was one of the first to do that, too. And he just improvised when he was playing live (most of the time). No one jammed as much as he did. In his early days, producers would get really, really mad at him for that. I remember reading, in his Nashville days, one producer faded his part whenever he refused to simply play eighth-notes on a basic chord progression.

Just listen to Are You Experienced and Electric Ladyland. You can hear that he was the first to do this stuff, even if it's commonplace not, because that passion for exploration just pours out, and it just has that "original" quality. :| (and on that note: MB needs an "indifferent" smiley)

Well said my friend

~~nic0le~~ · 03-19-2011, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fidelityfiend

When you master a craft as he did you don't have to be innovative. SRV is one of the top ten guitarists ever bar none. Not just blues guitar - he was a giant - all the greats (Clapton, Page, Beck (Jeff Beck), Blackmore, B.B. King etc etc have all stated that he was one of the best ever.

according to who? rolling stone magazine ? lol

srv did one thing amazingly, ill give him that..

...he brought blues to an audience that were being pounded with MTV's constant rotation of snazzy mc hammer and snap! videos when most of the popular music crowds of the world didnt know what real texas blues sounded like...srv introduced people and record companies to unheard of sales figures and to a sound...thats all..

he made a living..he died tragically...but he was no originator..and whoever says that srv is in some top 10 or 50 list of guitar players can take the list and push it aside...

cuz even vaughan, if he were today, would say its a crock..lol

Bloozcrooz · 03-29-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nic0le

according to who? rolling stone magazine ? lol

srv did one thing amazingly, ill give him that..

...he brought blues to an audience that were being pounded with MTV's constant rotation of snazzy mc hammer and snap! videos when most of the popular music crowds of the world didnt know what real texas blues sounded like...srv introduced people and record companies to unheard of sales figures and to a sound...thats all..

he made a living..he died tragically...but he was no originator..and whoever says that srv is in some top 10 or 50 list of guitar players can take the list and push it aside...

cuz even vaughan, if he were today, would say its a crock..lol

I guess since this person is no longer on MB it doesnt matter. After reading this post I can see why.

12-09-2005, 05:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Unitedbyrock Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhymney (South Wales Valleys) Posts: 35	Stevie Ray Vaughan Any fans of the late great man here? What a guitarist! My favourite album is 'couldn't satnd the weather' and my favourite song is 'pride and joy' He just had a great feel to his playing!

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12-21-2010, 05:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mrd00d Stoned and Jammin' Out Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Northern California; Eugene, OR; mobile Posts: 1,602	Well said about Jimi ^ Some of my favorites of SRV's are his staples. Nothing really gets you like Lenny. The emotion in the first 45 seconds should have you hooked. Tin Pan Alley is fantastic, too. But I really like throwing on a track like Dirty Pool. I always go back to Dirty Pool. I listen to it more than I do Texas Flood. Great album... __________________ Mrd00d's Last.fm