Agreed on post-rock but you can leave ambient alone, you cock goblin.

Yeah anything with “post” in the name is almost as pretentious as IDM. It’s not for everybody.

You may like 65daysofstatic, they’re very un-boring post rock.

You'll discover that the term "pretentious" is thrown around a lot here.
It's kind of a "go-to" word used indiscriminately.

I predict I’ll hear it a lot.

And you have the balls to call anyone else pretentious? Hey guys I heard on the internet that a cricket in your house isn't just annoying actually!

Agree that most "post rock" is watery nonsense but I've learned to like Mogwai and Godspeed/Silver Mt.Zion. Godspeed are tremendous live

At first when I branched out from indie rock a bit I figured every other post-rock band was just a poor man’s GY!BE or Mogwai but eventually I dove in.

I also figured why listen to other shoegaze if I had My Bloody Valentine so clearly I wasn’t very good at listening to music.

Fair enough

what Cage got rooms to provide is music too, you oaf (MB taught me that). and music is not just something like canned ambience