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grindy · 06-15-2020, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TockTockTock

Yeah, I plan to avoid those unless I want to ruffle some feathers.

Either way, I mostly came back to discuss music. I started reading a book on Henry Cow and I felt like this might be a good place to talk about it. That, and my love for music in general—especially experimental music.

Speaking of which I've been on a huge zeuhl kick lately

Henry Cow? Zeuhl? **** yeah!
What book have you been reading?

rostasi · 06-15-2020, 01:46 AM

This is a good, hefty one that came out last fall.

grindy · 06-15-2020, 02:40 AM

Didn't know about this. Thanks!
I'm buying that.

TockTockTock · 06-15-2020, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

^ Great to see you here again! You've been gone for ages, JackPat, but your influence lives on - with me, at any rate, as I'm still playing some of your old recommendations.
Music discussions can be pretty sluggish here now; the last few pages of this thread will bring you up to speed on where the real MB action is these days

P.S. Looking cool, with a change of hair colour unless I'm mistaken.

Thanks! Yeah, I remember being in that folk album club with you—listened to a lot of excellent music. And yes, I did change my hair color. I use henna to dye it now.

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Originally Posted by rostasi

This is a good, hefty one that came out last fall.

Yep, that's the one. I really appreciate how thorough and critical it is of capitalism so far.

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Originally Posted by grindy

Didn't know about this. Thanks!
I'm buying that.

I definitely recommend checking it out. I was looking for books on zeuhl or avant-prog—specifically books on Magma—but came across this. Immediately downloaded it on my Kindle.

grindy · 06-15-2020, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TockTockTock

Thanks! Yeah, I remember being in that folk album club with you—listened to a lot of excellent music. And yes, I did change my hair color. I use henna to dye it now.

Yep, that's the one. I really appreciate how thorough and critical it is of capitalism so far.

I definitely recommend checking it out. I was looking for books on zeuhl or avant-prog—specifically books on Magma—but came across this. Immediately downloaded it on my Kindle.

Already ordered it.
Have you read Chris Cutler's "File Under Popular"?
I could see you digging it.

rostasi · 06-15-2020, 12:29 PM

The book is well-researched and well-written,
so it's a joy to read and to learn some insights into
their very serious thinking (sometimes as a detriment)
during those days. I think there were something like
nearly a hundred interviews and various sources compiled.
I've had a nasty exchange with Cutler that's soured me on him
(plus he has some artistic philosophies that I don't agree with),
but I'm happy to see what Hodgkinson has since done musically -
especially his support for Romanian Spectralism.

grindy · 06-15-2020, 01:28 PM

I always expected Cutler to be a bit of a dick.
Love him as musician though, although I agree that Hodgkinson has been more interesting in the last decades.

TockTockTock · 06-15-2020, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

Already ordered it.
Have you read Chris Cutler's "File Under Popular"?
I could see you digging it.

It's been on my reading list for a while, but I have yet to read it!

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Originally Posted by rostasi

The book is well-researched and well-written,
so it's a joy to read and to learn some insights into
their very serious thinking (sometimes as a detriment)
during those days. I think there were something like
nearly a hundred interviews and various sources compiled.
I've had a nasty exchange with Cutler that's soured me on him
(plus he has some artistic philosophies that I don't agree with),
but I'm happy to see what Hodgkinson has since done musically -
especially his support for Romanian Spectralism.

What happened if you don't mind me asking?

rostasi · 06-15-2020, 11:25 PM

Well, I don’t think it’s healthy to rake him over the coals again,
but it was something having to do with Richard Pinhas that
had some unnecessary dickishness. Still, his influence on my
young life was pretty immense and I can certainly keep things
separate in my mind when it comes to his instrumental prowess.

WWWP · 06-17-2020, 09:08 PM

I put on makeup today for the first time since March

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grindy . Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: . Posts: 7,201	Didn't know about this. Thanks! I'm buying that. __________________ *A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.*

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grindy . Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: . Posts: 7,201	I always expected Cutler to be a bit of a dick. Love him as musician though, although I agree that Hodgkinson has been more interesting in the last decades. __________________ *A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.*

06-15-2020, 01:46 AM	#38662 (permalink)
rostasi . Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,007	This is a good, hefty one that came out last fall.

06-15-2020, 12:29 PM	#38666 (permalink)
rostasi . Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,007	The book is well-researched and well-written, so it's a joy to read and to learn some insights into their very serious thinking (sometimes as a detriment) during those days. I think there were something like nearly a hundred interviews and various sources compiled. I've had a nasty exchange with Cutler that's soured me on him (plus he has some artistic philosophies that I don't agree with), but I'm happy to see what Hodgkinson has since done musically - especially his support for Romanian Spectralism.

06-15-2020, 11:25 PM	#38669 (permalink)
rostasi . Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,007	Well, I don’t think it’s healthy to rake him over the coals again, but it was something having to do with Richard Pinhas that had some unnecessary dickishness. Still, his influence on my young life was pretty immense and I can certainly keep things separate in my mind when it comes to his instrumental prowess.