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Old 09-17-2015, 09:25 PM   #30761 (permalink)
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Also, by a certain age I'd expect an intelligent person to be taking care of them self too.
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Old 09-17-2015, 10:52 PM   #30762 (permalink)
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I don't think intelligence is something easily measured, and I think you confuse education with intelligence.

I don't even respect the IQ test for a multitude of reasons, the biggest one being that people who are offered large cash prizes for doing well tend to do better.
When you have a child/children you can't afford, lower class income with which you somehow manage to scrape by, and still don't bother with birth control, then you are either a moron or a Catholic. The amount of people I know/have known who are guilty of this is proof enough for me that self-sufficiency alone does not make one intelligent.

Also, I don't think it takes all that much intelligence to pay bills: make cash > pay cash > continue to live in domicile. Boom.
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Old 09-17-2015, 11:00 PM   #30763 (permalink)
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I never argued that first point.


Just saying, if you can't even do something as simple as support yourself, then how can one be respected as an intelligent adult?
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Old 09-17-2015, 11:14 PM   #30764 (permalink)
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Plenty of debilitating psychological reasons why an otherwise intelligent individual might fail at life.
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Old 09-17-2015, 11:19 PM   #30765 (permalink)
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Well failing at life really depends on what your goals are, and I never believe a person fails until they give up trying.
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Old 09-17-2015, 11:20 PM   #30766 (permalink)
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Plenty of debilitating psychological reasons why an otherwise intelligent individual might fail at life.
Yup. I know this quite intimitely.
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Old 09-18-2015, 12:38 PM   #30767 (permalink)
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Well failing at life really depends on what your goals are, and I never believe a person fails until they give up trying.
How about if an extremely intelligent person keeps trying, but keeps failing due to a mental impediment?
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Old 09-18-2015, 12:40 PM   #30768 (permalink)
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How about if an extremely intelligent person keeps trying, but keeps failing due to a mental impediment?
Then its not a failure. They tried, and that's a success in my book.
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Old 09-18-2015, 02:14 PM   #30769 (permalink)
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Then its not a failure. They tried, and that's a success in my book.
Aww, you give everyone a trophy. That's so cute.

If you're not failing at life you're doing it wrong.
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Old 09-18-2015, 02:30 PM   #30770 (permalink)
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Aww, you give everyone a trophy. That's so cute.

If you're not failing at life you're doing it wrong.
Rewarding failure is the New Black.
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