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carpe musicam
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I don't care much for Metal or Pop either so I can help you continue actively avoiding them if you like.
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![]() "it counts in our hearts" ?ºº? “I have nothing to offer anybody, except my own confusion.” Jack Kerouac. “If one listens to the wrong kind of music, he will become the wrong kind of person.” Aristotle. "If you tried to give Rock and Roll another name, you might call it 'Chuck Berry'." John Lennon "I look for ambiguity when I'm writing because life is ambiguous." Keith Richards |
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EDIT: I'll listen to that tomorrow and let you know: it's too late now to listen to it at a decent enough volume that I could hear it, and I'm off to bed anyway...
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If you want to understand the inspiration behind any organ/keyboard solo in 70's Prog or Hard Rock, listen to Jimmy Smith. To me there's nothing pretentious about him - he's the genuine article, the real McCoy. If you really want to immerse yourself into the world of Pop music the best place to start is to just listen to this song over and over and over and over again 'til it doesn't make any sense any more.
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3 questions to help focus recommendations.
Why do you avoid these genres? Why do you want to widen your taste to include them? Is there any miniscule element of these genres that you actually already like? |
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OK now I've had time to listen to both recommended tracks, here are my observations:
Jelly Roll Morton: not meandering no, but I really did not like this. Does nothing for me at all, had to force myself to get to the end. Jimmy Smith: very accomplished, good organ solo but again not really my thing. The only reason I posted about not liking jazz was that I could not believe anyone could be so --- perhaps unintentionally --- arrogant as to make the statement Gucci Little Piggy made that they could not understand anyone not liking jazz. I mean, no matter the genre, there's always going to be someone who doesn't like it. You can debate the pros of jazz, punk, emo, whatever back and forth with me, but in the end if I don't like it I don't like it. For someone to decide that because they like something, it's impossible to conceive that anyone else could dislike it, is to me the worst sort of conceit, and the kind of thing that probably need an "imo" after it. No matter how much I love a band/artiste/genre, or even outside of that, book, author, film, football club, I know that not everyone will see it as I do, and am prepared to accept that other views exist. I couldn't truly say something like "What? You don't like Pink Floyd?" as a for-instance, "EVERYONE loves Pink Floyd! How can you not? How could anyone dislike them?" As I said, it was the sense of arrogance --- again, I accept, perhaps not intentional --- in that statement that drove me to declare my dislike of jazz, which is where this all sparked off. And as it happens, yes, I still have no interest in jazz, just does nothing for me. I'm sure it's a great genre for those who like it, and I accept it has had a big effect on most music, but it's not for me. One of my adopt-a-newbies mentioned that she hates classical music with a passion: she actually has to leave when it's on. I tried to convince her --- briefly --- that it wasn't all bad but she would not be moved. In that case, I just accepted she was not into that music and left it. I did not think, or advance the opinion, that "no-one could dislike classical music!" We all have our likes and dislikes, and this needs to be accepted by Gucci Little Piggy: there are things in this life that people don't like, no matter how much you may like them. That's just how people are. It's longwinded but that was the point I was trying to make: not that I hate jazz particularly, but that it's unfair to tell someone they CAN'T dislike something, or that you don't understand how they can think that way. That was all. ![]()
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I am curious though, is there really no jazz at all that you like? Since I know you like a lot of prog, I'd think there'd be at least some jazz fusion that would appeal to you. |
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As for jazz fusion, well all I can tell you (and I have no idea if this is right or not) is that I've listened to Santana's "Caravanserai" again after 30-some years, and didn't hate it as much as I originally did. But is that jazz fusion? I dont know. Tell you what: throw a few vids my way, see if anything grabs me. I'm never ready to totally discount a genre, but my thinking towards jazz is admittedly already coloured by what I've heard up to now, and what I've heard I don't like. But you never know... ![]() ![]()
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I think that would make either be a great topic for a thread or some new sub-section of your journal.
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![]() I do have to say I can't imagine dismissing and entire era of music like that though. Quote:
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