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jordan502 12-08-2011 12:00 AM

Strange prob
 
hey guyz, i have a really strange problem....

all i wanna be a guitarist

but my parents see my future as a programmer....

and wat the irony is that i m not able to oppose them, coz i have commited so much mistakes, failed them so many times at so many occasions that right now, wat they think of me is a targetless person, a person who doesn't know wat to do with his/her life, i have not succeeded them at any point in my whole life...

today...

I am a graduate (B.A.) without a target....

all they want me to do is earn, do a job, or something productive....

but i never felt the urge for those things in my whole life....

anything that doesn't seem to provide earning in my case, is just meaningless for them...

but what i have discovered so far, i wanna get into music....i m not the guy who goes to the office 26 days a month, waits for his paycheck, begs for holidays and doesn't know wat the hell is personal life...i wanna b free in my life...i m not a job guy...please help me at this point that what should I do to get started? coz if things go this way, i dnt think i will ever get to be wat i really wanna be...

skaltezon 12-08-2011 12:17 AM

Welcome to Music Banter, jordan. http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...999/drinks.gif

Guybrush 12-08-2011 12:44 AM

Hey Jordan. Can't you just get a job and do music on the side? I know it's a lot easier to support yourself economically here as a programmer than it is as a musician.

jordan502 12-08-2011 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1129529)
Hey Jordan. Can't you just get a job and do music on the side? I know it's a lot easier to support yourself economically here as a programmer than it is as a musician.

hey tore, i know that u r giving a very reasonable answer from your point of view...

but why should we live for others, than ourselves? its our life...

and even if we leave that point, a person is only well suited in the places that are of his interest...

jordan502 12-08-2011 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by skaltezon (Post 1129515)
Welcome to Music Banter, jordan.

thanx bro...but i was looking for a solution for my prob...posting something more useful as tore did would have made me quite happy....

Guybrush 12-08-2011 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jordan502 (Post 1129554)
but why should we live for others, than ourselves? its our life...

Actually, no man is an island. You rely on other people in most aspects of your life, from the people who make the food you eat for breakfast to the people who sew the clothes you wear or the guys who made the house you live in.

Why should you stand outside the big give & take and only be a taker? If you don't work, you don't get the money which enables you to enjoy the work everyone else does.

Unless of course you can inherit a fortune or win a cash lottery.

jordan502 12-08-2011 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1129561)
Actually, no man is an island. You rely on other people in most aspects of your life, from the people who make the food you eat for breakfast to the people who sew the clothes you wear or the guys who made the house you live in.

Why should you stand outside the big give & take and only be a taker? If you don't work, you don't get the money which enables you to enjoy the work everyone else does.

Unless of course you can inherit a fortune or win a cash lottery.

very true tore, but wat to do if one cannot get his head into the work he doesn't want to do...

skaltezon 12-08-2011 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jordan502 (Post 1129555)
thanx bro...but i was looking for a solution for my prob...posting something more useful as tore did would have made me quite happy....

Crap. My greeting falls short of tore's useful advice. http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...9/facepalm.gif

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Janszoon 12-08-2011 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jordan502 (Post 1129566)
very true tore, but wat to do if one cannot get his head into the work he doesn't want to do...

Then find some other line of work you don't mind doing and use it to support your musical pursuits.

MoonlitSunshine 12-08-2011 08:17 AM

Develop a programming language that is written using different frequencies, and become famous for your "Guitar Jam Coding" technique.

jordan502 12-08-2011 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonlitSunshine (Post 1129635)
Develop a programming language that is written using different frequencies, and become famous for your "Guitar Jam Coding" technique.

very ****ing funny...don't make fun if u ain't got brains that can help./.

jordan502 12-08-2011 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1129598)
Then find some other line of work you don't mind doing and use it to support your musical pursuits.

some ideas? buddy they want me 2 make my ****ing career in programming...and i just dnt want that....:(

Freebase Dali 12-08-2011 11:35 PM

You've got about one more post to convince me that you're here for more than solving a ridiculously childish problem you seem to actually have no interest in solving.

Janszoon 12-08-2011 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jordan502 (Post 1130029)
some ideas? buddy they want me 2 make my ****ing career in programming...and i just dnt want that....:(

I'm just some random guy on the internet, I'm sure you have much better ideas about what might interest you than I do. Just keep in mind that there are thousands if not millions of of careers out there. Find one you like and make music in your spare time.

Howard the Duck 12-09-2011 01:05 AM

better yet, write a program that can make oscillatory algorithm soundwaves exactly sounding like a guitar

(no synth can do that yet)

jordan502 12-09-2011 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1130031)
You've got about one more post to convince me that you're here for more than solving a ridiculously childish problem you seem to actually have no interest in solving.

i dnt know if u have any kinda interest in helping others ....all u want is to increase the post count below ur damned name... and stop s-u-c-k-i-n-g if u can...

jordan502 12-09-2011 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1130033)
I'm just some random guy on the internet, I'm sure you have much better ideas about what might interest you than I do. Just keep in mind that there are thousands if not millions of of careers out there. Find one you like and make music in your spare time.


dude...u ain't gettin my point...

they want me to just break the keyboard keys and nothing...they just dont get anything other than that in their old generation head....:confused:

Howard the Duck 12-09-2011 01:30 AM

t-r-o-l-l alert

jordan502 12-09-2011 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1130049)
t-r-o-l-l alert

cmon man,

someone who wants to be a musician would take the first advice from a musician community....

u could give some good ideas,

Howard the Duck 12-09-2011 05:41 AM

look, dude, it isn't that "strange" a problem

my first priority was being a musician but i ended up a lawyer - it remains a regret, but yet, i've seen a lot of musical failures, such as a fren of my father who used to play saxophone, but now drives cabs

add to that, people in Malaysia aren't enlightened towards music, they ain't gonna buy my stuff

so i advise just do it part-time, i record stuff part-time as well, and put it on the Net

Guybrush 12-09-2011 07:30 AM

jordan, I agree with Duce in that your problem is not a strange one at all.

I know several professional musicians and they all have jobs on the side. They don't make much money from album sales and certainly not from services like Spotify. In the end, they end up spending more money than they make and they have to support it financially. Unless you're doing something very commercial, that's the way it is. I'm sure many of them would like to just be full time musicians if it was a valid option. So, get a job you can stand doing and be a musician on the side.

Also; a tip. You probably won't stick around here long if you keep insulting the moderators and other members.

Janszoon 12-09-2011 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jordan502 (Post 1130048)
dude...u ain't gettin my point...

they want me to just break the keyboard keys and nothing...they just dont get anything other than that in their old generation head....:confused:

I guess you're doomed then. Bummer.

duga 12-09-2011 10:36 AM

Just from the grammar alone, I'm thinking you are probably a pretty ****ty programmer. Those guys are usually well organized and anal. At the very least they capitalize properly.

So what is the deal? You don't want to program, so don't do it. Two things will happen...your parents will understand and allow you to keep mooching off of them or they won't understand, kick you out of the house, and you'll see you need to get a real job anyway. Or you will make it in the music industry, who knows.

MoonlitSunshine 12-09-2011 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jordan502 (Post 1130027)
very ****ing funny...don't make fun if u ain't got brains that can help./.

What? It's entirely possible. Just take the base of an existing compiler (C, Java, something Object Oriented would probably be better), and write an interface between some sort of sound processing software and the compiler. You could even use something low-lever like C++ as the base code entirely, and just write translation software that analyzes the music you're playing and translates it into C code. It isn't the most... efficient way to write code, but it's certainly novel and it might make you a few bob :P

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-09-2011 12:19 PM

If you're comfortable living in a small cardboard box in the street and can go without eating for weeks on end you are right, you don't need a job and you'll be free to play music as often as you like.

May I suggest getting a dog too, the animal lovers will give you more money.

MoonlitSunshine 12-09-2011 12:47 PM

Is that cost-effective though? You'd need to spend money on the dog as well.

Sneer 12-09-2011 12:56 PM

This thread's ridiculous, grow the fuck up.

Phantom Limb 12-09-2011 01:14 PM

I don't think that anyone really wants to work. I often feel depressed when I realize that after I'm done with college, my whole existence is gonna be, for the most part, work. Still, you gotta do it cause chances are you're not gonna make it big in the music world. However, you could get a job that involves music if you put some effort into it. You could be a sound engineer or a roadie or something. Just try to be realistic.

Janszoon 12-09-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb (Post 1130287)
I don't think that anyone really wants to work. I often feel depressed when I realize that after I'm done with college, my whole existence is gonna be, for the most part, work.

I used to feel the exact same way, but it's not really that bad once you get out there. I do still miss summer vacation though.

MoonlitSunshine 12-09-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb (Post 1130287)
I don't think that anyone really wants to work. I often feel depressed when I realize that after I'm done with college, my whole existence is gonna be, for the most part, work. Still, you gotta do it cause chances are you're not gonna make it big in the music world. However, you could get a job that involves music if you put some effort into it. You could be a sound engineer or a roadie or something. Just try to be realistic.

I'm kinda looking forward to work tbh. I'm looking to get involved with a bunch of graduate schemes for problem solving based companies. If I can solve problems as a career, I'm pretty sure I'll be fairly happy!

Howard the Duck 12-09-2011 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonlitSunshine (Post 1130264)
Is that cost-effective though? You'd need to spend money on the dog as well.

get a rabbit, then - you can eat it after it dies

Freebase Dali 12-09-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jordan502 (Post 1130047)
i dnt know if u have any kinda interest in helping others ....all u want is to increase the post count below ur damned name... and stop s-u-c-k-i-n-g if u can...

You failed. Goodbye.

Zer0 12-09-2011 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonlitSunshine (Post 1129635)
Develop a programming language that is written using different frequencies, and become famous for your "Guitar Jam Coding" technique.

Generating code like that can be very difficult. One of my former classmates though wrote a program in Java that compares two guitar waveforms and calculates the difference between the two as a percentage. He turned it into a game like guitar hero with a real guitar.

MoonlitSunshine 12-10-2011 08:21 AM

Hmm, interesting. I would imagine it's not an area that's well traveled, there are potentially a whole range of interesting combinations that can be made!

Rubato 12-12-2011 10:14 AM

oh dear, looks like someone hasn't learned about life yet :(



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